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Post by TheOogieBoogieMan on Jul 14, 2005 20:06:49 GMT -5
Yeah, from what I've heard, Watchmen is like, THE graphic novel. But even so, I'm not hoping to get one over any of the others. I know I'll get to them all eventually.
I don't know much about We3 either. All I know is that it's written by Grant Morrison, it's about experimenting on animals and features some incredible artwork (I dunno who does it, but seeing one or two pictures from the book is what drew me to it).
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Jul 16, 2005 10:46:19 GMT -5
it's about experimenting on animals and features some incredible artwork (I dunno who does it, but seeing one or two pictures from the book is what drew me to it). Not positive, but I think it's Frank Quitely, who's a very... polarizing artist. Seems like a lot of people either love his stuff or hate it; he and Grant work together a lot, including on New X-Men. Personally, I love his backgrounds, but he draws about the ugliest women I've ever seen- all puckered lips and grimaces. Bleh. -D |
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Post by mysteriorockanova on Aug 10, 2005 21:22:49 GMT -5
I just bought The Dark Knight Returns and then I read it. I wasn't to impressed by the art, but I thought the writing was tops. Also *SPOILER* Anybody that has the balls to kill not only The Joker, but also Alfred, even if it's non canon, is okay in my books.
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Post by TheOogieBoogieMan on Aug 11, 2005 23:32:39 GMT -5
Well, for my birthday yesterday (at this moment, "yesterday" was a half hour ago), rather than buy me any of the comic books I mentioned, my parents gave me allowance to buy a few things on Amazon.ca at their expense. I ended up buying The Nail, because it was the cheapest of the bunch and cause I'm a big Rob Zombie fan. The unfortunate thing, though, is that it won't arrive here until the first week of September (according to the site), so I'm gonna have to wait that long to read it and discuss it here.  |
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Post by mysteriorockanova on Aug 12, 2005 11:44:20 GMT -5
Is anybody elses newspaper often do stories about comic books lately? I noticed that the newspaper in my town does. Does this mean that comics have finally made it back into the mainstream perhaps?
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Post by kylerexpop on Aug 16, 2005 14:28:56 GMT -5
is it me, or are the 'house of m' crossover and the 'infinite crisis' crap both stupid, lame, and not worth following?
because i couldn't care less about any of this stuff. god, i can barely wait the three months for all-star superman. grant morrison is The Greatest.
discuss.
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Post by Doctor Teeth on Aug 16, 2005 19:35:13 GMT -5
My feelings on the subject:
House of M - basically sub-standard stuff. I'm not bored, but I'm not finding myself that interested. Sad thing is, I waited 5 issues to realize that, and am now waffling between cutting & running or waiting it out. It certainly reads better all together than as a series, but if they did that, they wouldn't make as much money...
Infinite Crisis - I don't read much from the DC Universe, but I'm actually enjoying a most of the miniseries. I can't get into Rann/Thanagar, and OMAC is variable in quality month-to-month, but I really like Day of Vengeance and Villains United, mostly because I like the writers. Overall, this is a slightly-better-than-average event, but I'm waiting for the actual Crisis to see how it pans out. However, my favourite comics event of the year would have to be...
Seven Soldiers - This is the comics event of the year, and it kils me that DC is pushing Crisis overtop of this. (I'm sure Kyle, Morrison freak that he is, would agree with me.) Each of the titles is well-written and well-drawn, month in and month out, and when the hype settles, years from now, I think we'll find that this is what everyone's going to remember. At least, I hope it will.
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Post by kylerexpop on Aug 18, 2005 1:00:25 GMT -5
can anyone explain the brian michael bendis love to me? because i seriously don't get it. i enjoyed reading a couple 'alias' tpbs at barnes, but afterwards i was like "uh, okay." same with his daredevil work and everything else he's written that i've read.
"house of m?" "new avengers?" am i missing something in my brain that doesn't allow me to see these as the masterpieces they are? i don't get it.
meanwhile, yes: grant morrions' 'seven soldiers' mini-series is GENIUS and consistently fantastic. i'm going to go out on a limb, though, and call his 'all-star superman' the greatest superman story ever written. somehow, i just know (three months ahead of actually reading it, i know!).
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Aug 18, 2005 8:45:50 GMT -5
Eh, I'll take a stab at explaining Bendis, even though he's kinda hit-and-miss with me- I love Ultimate Spider-Man (mostly), have decided Powers just isn't to my taste, and the jury's still out on New Avengers.
The thing about Bendis is, his specialty is the quiet, introspective character issues, and he does those extremely well- for evidence of what I mean, check out yesterday's Ultimate Spider-Man annual #1, a really cute, cool little tale where Kitty Pryde of the Ultimate X-Men finally acts on her longstanding crush and actually starts *GASP!* dating Spidey. Bendis has a great ear for dialogue, and he writes very believable, natural-sounding interactions between characters, as opposed to the more melodramatic style of a Chris Claremont or a Stan Lee. And that's both a plus and a minus... it means that more down-to-earth characters like Spiday and Walker (of Powers) come across as very "real" characters, but on the other hand, some characters really do just sound more natural when actually being melodramatic, like Superman or Captain America. It also means that Bendis's stories take about twice as long as most to tell, because half of every issue is filled with characters saying "Yeah, well... uh, y'know." "No, I uh... I don't, actually." "Oh, come on, you totally do. You couldn't possibly know more." "No, I seriously don't. Heh." "Heh... yeah." "......" "......." "Soooo....."
He's not a very fast storyteller, and that means his stories are paced out over a lot of issues, which sometimes works (Ultimate Spidey's 5-issue origin) and sometimes doesn't (the recent Hobgoblin arc, in which, uh, nothing freaking happened!). He's also recently realized his golden boy status at Marvel, which means we're seeing a lot of his pet projects come to light (Spider-Woman's resurgence in popularity, Avengers Disassembled), and some of them are pissing a lot of fans off, like dismantling the classic Avengers just so they can put all of Marvel's most popular characters (Spidey, Wolverine, etc.) on the team, JLA-style. In the case of New Avengers, I really enjoy the interaction between the characters (his specialty), particularly Spidey's quips, but I also think the concept is flawed, the set-up execution was very poor, and I'm undecided on the direction of the stories he's telling.
In your particular case though, Kyle -- being a fan of Morrison's "throw a thousand ideas out per issue and follow through on 2 of them" frenetic, frenzied pace -- I can definitely understand how Bendis wouldn't be to your taste. As for House of M and Infinite Crisis, I couldn't be less interested in reading either of them, so I'm not going to. My only hope for House of M is that it brings back some of my favorite dead characters, like Cypher and Magik, to the regular MU. And Crisis I can wait out until Max Lord's character defamation is done and Blue Beetle is inevitably resurrected.
-D
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Post by mysteriorockanova on Aug 29, 2005 13:32:34 GMT -5
Has anyone else picked up Batman And Robin All Stars yet? I'm REALLY hoping this will get better. Frank Miller's little habit of not putting Batman in a first issue for less than two pages has never been more annoying.
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Aug 29, 2005 14:28:23 GMT -5
Vicki Vale's Penthouse Special? Yeah, I picked it up. Sex and the City meets Carmen Electra... yow! Oh, and I think Robin might have been in a couple of pages too.  -D |
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Post by TheOogieBoogieMan on Aug 29, 2005 18:11:07 GMT -5
So, I finally got the Nail the other day. It's pretty good, if comic book gore and nudity is your thing. It was too short, though, so I ended up reading the thing in about an hour. It reminded me of Tremors in that, it wasn't groundbreaking or high caliber material, but still loads of fun.
Btw, has anyone here read any of the Cerebus books? They look really interesting, and I'm considering buying the first volume.
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Aug 29, 2005 22:24:01 GMT -5
Btw, has anyone here read any of the Cerebus books? They look really interesting, and I'm considering buying the first volume. The only issue I've read is the very last one, but they do say that -- before Dave Sim went completely, utterly batcrap insane and started blaming women for all the evils of the world -- it was a really good comic. I've heard that the first volume or two is a pretty standard parody of Conan the Barbarian, but once Sim settled down with the concept, he started to really impress. That's all secondhand from what I've heard, though, so take it with a grain of salt. Meanwhile, I'm going to take a quick second to give props to Lucifer. (Don't worry, Justin, not THOSE kinds of props to Lucifer.) It ain't easy following on the heels of Neil Gaiman's legendary Sandman run, but Mike Carey took one of his most fascinating characters and crafted a complex, multilayered protaganist every bit as interesting as Milton's classic version of Satan. He's an incredibly intriguing character, not so much evil as completely self-focused, egocentric, and driven, in a very Ayn Randian way. He's extremely selfish, in a way, but even while you're shaking your head at it, you also can't help but be impressed by his ingenuity, determination, and stubbornness. The first collection is decent but kind of muddled, but the second trade is where things really start getting good. Kyle, you read Lucifer, right? Back me up here, my brotha. -D |
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Post by kylerexpop on Sept 2, 2005 13:48:47 GMT -5
'lucifer' is an excellent comic book. it's so good that when it came time for me to do an undergraduate honors thesis at redlands (i decided to do one two hours before the deadline, which was exciting) i knew i had to do something with lucifer.
the final result revealed i got bogged down in 'paradise lost' a little more than expected, but that's john milton for you.
that said, 'lucifer' the comic book is/was stunning. the first four trades at least are just a slam-bam fantastic epic . . .
but i've stopped buying the monthly issues, and barely care anymore. i don't know if mike carey used the same bait-and-switch tricks over and over or if it's just drawn out a bit too much, but at this point i just want him to reach his conclusion so i can read it all in a fell swoop.
maybe i'm just getting impatient. i got really into 'the losers' but stopped buying that as well, since i know the conclusion is coming next year and i can just get the trades and read it all much easier than waiting month to month.
but yes: my recent ennui is all me. 'lucifer' was an excellent comic for the first 50 issues and i believe it still very well could be. i've just lost patience and don't feel its epic scope like i used to. but it might be your cup of tea!
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Post by Doctor Teeth on Sept 12, 2005 13:21:35 GMT -5
Has anyone besides me picked up Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith's Fell? If not, here are the reasons to do so:
1) It's a 16-page, self-contained story with no decompression.
2) It's $1.99 US.
3) It's got no ads.
It does have some typical Ellis moments, especially in the dialogue (eg: "Devil Cop. I am Devil Cop now.") But I absolutely loved it; it seriously ruined my enjoyment of all of my other comics last week.
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