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Post by blinkfan on May 25, 2006 18:18:21 GMT -5
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Ahem... I think what Justin's trying to say, blinky, is that Brodie doesn't know everything, and if Superman's capable of controlling his strength enough to, say, get dressed without tearing his clothes or type up newspaper stories without wrecking the keyboard (and desk, and floor, and building foundation, and....), he can certainly "control himself" when getting intimate. It's true, only Wonder Woman would allow him to really get his freak on, but self-restraint is probably a small price to pay for him to be with the woman he actually loves. -D[/quote]
Okay Drew. But here is what gets the old wheels turning in my brain.In Superman 2 (the movie) Superman gives up his powers because he doesn't want to be superman anymore. okay are you following.But once he does this he and Lois Lane go at it. But as you say he could controll it and could have ahem done the dirty work with her this whole time. So why did he feel it was necessary to wait until he had no more powers?
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Post by TheLuckyOne on May 26, 2006 10:22:13 GMT -5
Okay Drew. But here is what gets the old wheels turning in my brain.In Superman 2 (the movie) Superman gives up his powers because he doesn't want to be superman anymore. okay are you following.But once he does this he and Lois Lane go at it. But as you say he could controll it and could have ahem done the dirty work with her this whole time. So why did he feel it was necessary to wait until he had no more powers? Um... far be it from me to try to speak for the Man of Steel, but if I had to speculate, I'd say it was a mental thing- while he's Superman he has responsibilities to the world, so he can't devote himself wholeheartedly to a relationship until he gives up his responsibilities. Then there's the safety factor- same reason movie Spider-Man couldn't have a relationship with movie Mary Jane, because she'd always be in danger if his secret identity got out. Maybe most importantly, there's the fact that that was a Superman MOVIE, and thus doesn't follow the same rules of the comics (or physics, for that matter) in a variety of ways. You can't expect them to be the same any more than you'd want Wesley Snipes wearing an afro and going after pudgy, middle-aged doctor vampire Deacon Frost as Blade the Vampire-Slayer. -D
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Post by blinkfan on May 26, 2006 15:08:10 GMT -5
Great comeback Drew,But let's not forget Spiderman wears a mask so he really has to worry about his secret identity getting out.Superman hides who he is by wearing glasses.So it wouldn't be too hard to find out who he is and if superman's villians are at all smart Lois would already be in danger.And in smallville Clark still has enemies trying to get him and they know who he is.Yet he can carry on a relationship with Lana Lang.
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Post by DTH on May 31, 2006 11:20:53 GMT -5
Greetinx My opinion of Smallville has flipped flop more times than a super-springy see saw. It has its moment of class (the Season One cliffhanger with Lex was particularly great) but for every moment of greatness, there is another Kryptonite ghost-frog-chicken-platypus-thing that is causing havoc for the boy of steel. One of things that makes me laugh about Smallville (and may be one of the reasons it is a bit rubbish) is that it has about 13 Producers. I kid you not. Check the titles on every season. There are like 4 Executive Producers by Season 5, 17 Producers and a Producer in Charge of Monkeys. Ok, slight exaggeration, however, there really are TOO many Producers... Anyway, Season 2 of Smallville is much better than Season One as they have more of a coherent plot. Season 3 and 4 are about the peak of quality, with more plot and less Kryptonite monster of the week. No surprise that Steven S. DeKnight (of Angel fame) is one of the writers/producers for the show at this point (and in fact has an episode about Kryptonite Vampires in a nice Buffy homage). Season 5 is less plot, more monsters, and is a serious disappointment. In fact, they fall in to the trap of 'we've [somehow] run out of ACTUAL story and decided to rip off a movie' that plagued Sliders for most of its latter seasons. The principle thing that has cornballed Smallville from early on is the 'will they/won't they' relationship between Lana and Clark. It just goes on episode after episode after episode and is completely annoying by Season 4... You thought it was bad in Dawson's Creek? Well, guess what, imagine the ANGST had super powers and that's how bad it is here. However, Season One to Four are worth watching. Season Five is a let down purely because previous seasons were half decent... and it has 'Spike' in it! Unfortunately, he's completely under used and rubbish in it. Worst still is that Smallville has very little to do with the Superman comics. It is a completely separate continuity and that has alienated a lot of Superman fans. From Lois living at the Kent's farm during Clark's teen years to Lex Luthor being his best mate for most of the series, I am no longer certain as to whom the show is meant to appeal... ...probably those people who watch Charmed religiously Anyways, Smallville certainly isn't the greatest show on TV, but it beats any single episode of Sliders or Andromeda, so I'm quite happy to keep watching
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Post by TheLuckyOne on May 31, 2006 11:46:10 GMT -5
Great comeback Drew,But let's not forget Spiderman wears a mask so he really has to worry about his secret identity getting out.Superman hides who he is by wearing glasses.So it wouldn't be too hard to find out who he is Well, Superman does vibrate his face at superspeed whenever he's active in public, making his face just slightly blurred and indistinct, to keep from being recognized as Clark Kent. So there's that. The Golden Age Flash used to pull the same trick, since he didn't wear a mask either. Luthor DID once use a supercomputer to deduce Superman's identity- he fed all the data in, and the computer came to one inescapable conclusion: Clark Kent is Superman. Of course, Luthor immediately dismissed the idea because there's no way a being as powerful as Superman would be content hiding as a plain, ordinary, unimportant person like Kent, then had the computer destroyed. -D
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Post by blinkfan on May 31, 2006 17:59:39 GMT -5
Alright Drew, You Win. I bow down to your Vast knowledge of comic books.
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Post by ronzo on Aug 16, 2006 14:29:37 GMT -5
There is a famous essay called "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." ( www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html). Don't worry, it's not nasty. It's actually fairly academic, and quite funny, and explains why Superman could never copulate with Lois Lane. My argument is that he can have sex with a woman, and my reasoning is that it's more dramatic and flexible to allow the possibility than to claim actual physics for a comic book character who flies and shoots heat from his eyes.
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Post by Spiderdancer on Aug 16, 2006 17:09:41 GMT -5
There is a famous essay called "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." ( www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html). Don't worry, it's not nasty. It's actually fairly academic, and quite funny, and explains why Superman could never copulate with Lois Lane. My argument is that he can have sex with a woman, and my reasoning is that it's more dramatic and flexible to allow the possibility than to claim actual physics for a comic book character who flies and shoots heat from his eyes. Wow, you know, I'd never read that essay. Hilarious. Where was that sense of humor when Larry Niven was writing the Ringworld books?
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Post by DTH on Aug 17, 2006 2:51:18 GMT -5
Wow, you know, I'd never read that essay. Hilarious. Where was that sense of humor when Larry Niven was writing the Ringworld books? He was too busy creating/exploring "a living, breathing, real world". Shame he didn't actually have a story to go with it.
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