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Post by jamus34 on Apr 6, 2004 20:56:58 GMT -5
Anyone who says Kefka isn't the greatest villian of all time (at least in FF's world) needs to get their head examined.
Sephiroth was a baddass, no doubt...But Kefka was a true psychopath...He didn't kill for reason, he didn't kill because he was wronged, he didn't kill to achieve some goal...he killed because he enjoyed it. That to me marks a very good (evil) villian.
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Post by Hucklebubba on Apr 7, 2004 0:54:12 GMT -5
And Shadow did indeed rock. Too bad there isn't some way to keep him from intentionally offing himself (That's certainly the implication, at least.) during the game's end sequence. Ergh. Bugs me to no end, that. |
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Post by dajaymann on Apr 7, 2004 12:03:03 GMT -5
Anyone who says Kefka isn't the greatest villian of all time (at least in FF's world) needs to get their head examined. Sephiroth was a baddass, no doubt...But Kefka was a true psychopath...He didn't kill for reason, he didn't kill because he was wronged, he didn't kill to achieve some goal...he killed because he enjoyed it. That to me marks a very good (evil) villian. Ehhhhh...Kefka was fun to hate and all, but he was kinda two-dimensional. I really just wanted Cyan to go up and kick him square in the nuts. And what was up with his incarnation as the end boss? They spend all this time building him up to some sort of pseudo-God to reveal him looking like a semi-nude freak with wings. Just like Sephiroth's end boss incarnation - talk about unrecognizable! However, I chalk that up to crazy Japanese video game imagery. Golbez from II/IV and Sephiroth were my favorites, because they seemed kinda ambiguous. Golbez ends up being a good guy (after having a somewhat ridiculous revelation), and Sephiroth seems like a horribly misguided and maligned titan. But that's just me, I could be wrong... |
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Post by jamus34 on Apr 7, 2004 21:16:31 GMT -5
Ehhhhh...Kefka was fun to hate and all, but he was kinda two-dimensional. I really just wanted Cyan to go up and kick him square in the nuts. And what was up with his incarnation as the end boss? They spend all this time building him up to some sort of pseudo-God to reveal him looking like a semi-nude freak with wings. Just like Sephiroth's end boss incarnation - talk about unrecognizable! However, I chalk that up to crazy Japanese video game imagery. Golbez from II/IV and Sephiroth were my favorites, because they seemed kinda ambiguous. Golbez ends up being a good guy (after having a somewhat ridiculous revelation), and Sephiroth seems like a horribly misguided and maligned titan. But that's just me, I could be wrong... That's the thing...pretty much every FF villian after Chaos usually had an "evil purpose"...either to rule the world, take vengence on someone or thing or whatever...Kefka didn't...he just wanted to kill indiscriminately. |
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Post by loulabelle on Apr 8, 2004 8:00:54 GMT -5
If it's any consolation, I have played Final Fantasy VI and loved it to bits. ;D I haven't finished VII yet, but so far it's easier on the eyes than VI. I can't say much about who's the better villian, save that Sephiroth has the cooler theme song  |
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Post by PoolMan on Apr 8, 2004 11:32:03 GMT -5
It's okay, loulabelle. Justin and I have both admitted the nostalgia factor, and that's a tough thing to argue against. Of course, when I say "retro gaming", I think of Frogger. When J says it, he thinks of Final Fantasy 9. |
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Post by jamus34 on Apr 8, 2004 23:01:11 GMT -5
It's okay, loulabelle. Justin and I have both admitted the nostalgia factor, and that's a tough thing to argue against. Of course, when I say "retro gaming", I think of Frogger. When J says it, he thinks of Final Fantasy 9. Damn...now yer making me feel old...I think the first game I ever played was the 2600 Pong...with the paddles |
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Post by dajaymann on Apr 9, 2004 12:54:58 GMT -5
Earliest gaming experience?
That gawdaful Pac-Man game for the 2600. Also Combat (which rocked) and Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (which was frustrating).
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Post by duckie on Apr 9, 2004 13:11:58 GMT -5
Earliest gaming experience? That gawdaful Pac-Man game for the 2600. Also Combat (which rocked) and Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (which was frustrating). Ahhh, I remember when that pac-man version came out. And Night Driver... has a better driving game ever come out? I think not My folks opted for an Odyssey II instead of Atari, since we had a Magnavox TV (they were the ones who introduced the Odyssey II, for you young'uns... I'm looking at you, Lissa!  And, when ColecoVision came onto the market, we just drooled with envy.  Eventually, I bought an Atari 5200 - it's now sitting in storage, but haven't gotten to it yet. I know I'll have to rebuild the joysticks, but other than that, it still worked well when I packed it up. Maybe soon... |
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Post by dajaymann on Apr 9, 2004 15:38:10 GMT -5
Does anyone else remember the Atari XE? I had one, and it came out right after the NES hit it big, if memory serves me correctly. I beleive it was basically a repackaged 7800 with a light gun and a keyboard (so as to fool young nerds like myself into believing it was a real honest-to-goodnes computer - without a hard drive) and very, very few games were ever released for it. However, Joust and Dig Dug rocked on it, and so did video pinball. Tied me over just well enough until I could con my parents into getting me a Nintendo for my tenth birthday.
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Post by duckie on Apr 9, 2004 16:10:45 GMT -5
I remember the 7800 coming out, and vaguely remember the XE. By then, I was into my Commodore 64. Remember Coleco's ADAM computer, and Commodore's Amiga? Yea, there was a push towards getting gamers into PC's, you could see it in some of the systems that were being sold in the mid- to late- 80's. I remember that a local Sears store had some of the early PC's out on display in the mid 80's, and I had learned a little programming in school. Just enough to be dangerous. My family would go to the mall on Friday nights, and as we'd go through Sears, I'd get a little bit ahead of everyone, find a PC and type in something like 10 print, " Gary is a dork" 20 goto 10 So my brother would see a whole screen full of my namecalling, and didn't know how to stop it ;D I was such a geek |
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Post by Head Mutant on Apr 9, 2004 21:57:31 GMT -5
Ctrl-break
I think.
It's been a while since my BASIC days, but I think that's how you stopped a looping program.
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Post by duckie on Apr 10, 2004 11:07:44 GMT -5
Ctrl-break I think. It's been a while since my BASIC days, but I think that's how you stopped a looping program. BASIC = Bill's Attempt to Sieze Industry Control (or something like that ;D) And yea, it was Ctrl-break which shut down a running program... but my brother didn't know that |
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Post by PoolMan on Apr 12, 2004 12:27:33 GMT -5
Heh. I remember breaking into my stepfather's Apple II by going into the HELLO program and changing his password line so that it was temporarily "FRODO". I'd get into the machine but not save the change to the program, so when I powered off, all evidence of my hacking had disappeared on its own. Heh, I loved BASIC.
I had a 2600. Scratch that, I actually still do, and it's in working order at my family's vacation home. It's a thing of beauty.
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Post by PoolMan on Apr 15, 2004 17:35:21 GMT -5
I've also recently begun my trek through Gladius, which is a prety badass gladiator game done Tactics-style. Anyone else check it out? Hey Al, just checking, are you still playing Gladius? I'm just getting into the second city of Imperia, and I have to admit, as much as I was enjoying this game before, it's really opening up and picking up steam now. Just curious if you've given it the same chance. |
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And, when ColecoVision came onto the market, we just drooled with envy. 
Eventually, I bought an Atari 5200 - it's now sitting in storage, but haven't gotten to it yet. I know I'll have to rebuild the joysticks, but other than that, it still worked well when I packed it up. Maybe soon... 
