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Post by Al on Mar 23, 2004 21:32:06 GMT -5
Except they show him find the ring in the FOTR prologue and he looks a whole lot younger.
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Post by DarthToad on Mar 23, 2004 22:13:51 GMT -5
Here's what I have to say about the Hobbit. It's called The Rule of Four!!! The The Rule of Four!!! is simple, a series that has sequals and prequals (so Kevin Smith doesn't count) will never survive for 4 or more movies. Star Wars, died on Episode 1 (the fourth one made). There's other examples, but I'm too lazy to say. So because of The Rule of Four!!! the Hobbit will be a waste of time and money. Sorry. I really want it to be good, but the The Rule of Four!!! says no.
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Post by DocD83 on Mar 24, 2004 1:46:44 GMT -5
They have a different Gollum in Fellowship as well. No one would care about the change, I think, except hardcore fans who should know already Bilbo wasn't exactly young for his adventure. He was, what, fifty or more when he set out?
Though it's not like The Hobbit was written to capitalize on the commercial sucess of Lord of the Rings. The Lord of the Rings was written second, so Return of the King would have had to suck to fit your rule.
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Post by Magill on Mar 24, 2004 10:43:57 GMT -5
They have a different Gollum in Fellowship as well. No one would care about the change, I think, except hardcore fans who should know already Bilbo wasn't exactly young for his adventure. He was, what, fifty or more when he set out? Yeah, but Hobbits age more slowly than men--33 was the age of maturity (comparable to 18 or 21), and although 111 was a momentous birthday, it wasn't as rare for Hobbits to reach that age as it would be for humans. Also, in the books, Frodo is supposed to be in his 30s (or is he older?). |
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Post by druidGirl on Mar 24, 2004 11:35:58 GMT -5
Yeah, Frodo was in his 30s I'm pretty sure. He was the oldest of the 4 hobbits in Ring.
Even if Bilbo was around 50 years old for The Hobbit, would that be around 30 in human years. So he wouldn't really be "old." Just older if he was human. At 50 that's about prime-of-life for Hobbits.
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Post by Al on Mar 24, 2004 21:08:50 GMT -5
In the novels, Frodo turned 33 and Bilbo turned 111 on the same day. Or at least they were celebrated at the same party. But then twenty years or so elapses between Bilbo leaving and Gandalf returning with news of the Sauron and the One Ring. When Frodo + Co. leave Bag End, I'm pretty sure he makes mention that he is same age Bilbo was in The Hobbit (52?). They eliminated this from the movies presumably because middle-aged men running from Ringwraiths would look silly.
Al
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Post by duckie on Mar 24, 2004 21:42:37 GMT -5
Here's what I have to say about the Hobbit. It's called The Rule of Four!!! The The Rule of Four!!! is simple, a series that has sequals and prequals (so Kevin Smith doesn't count) will never survive for 4 or more movies. Star Wars, died on Episode 1 (the fourth one made). There's other examples, but I'm too lazy to say. So because of The Rule of Four!!! the Hobbit will be a waste of time and money. Sorry. I really want it to be good, but the The Rule of Four!!! says no. I was just catching up on some of the other threads, made me wonder about the Rule of Four... does this apply to Bond as well?  |
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Post by PoolMan on Mar 25, 2004 12:15:50 GMT -5
I think that's the Rule Of Fifteen Or So.
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Post by DarthToad on Mar 25, 2004 18:54:24 GMT -5
Yeah, after I posted that I noticed the same thing about the Star Trek movies. I think with Bond it's weird, because there might be other Bonds in the space-time continuum, so I guess the best thing to say is that if it's based off of a TV show, or if it's possible to say that each James Bond is in a different space-time continuum, The Rule of Four!!!! still stands.
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Post by PoolMan on Mar 26, 2004 12:53:55 GMT -5
Actually, ironically enough, Star Trek IV is considered one of the very best ST movies.
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Post by Magill on Mar 26, 2004 14:05:30 GMT -5
VI isn't too shabby, either. Then again, Star Trek has it's own rule: Odds are bad, Evens are good. Though not having seen Nemesis, I'm not sure if this fits the pattern.
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Post by druidGirl on Mar 26, 2004 14:12:43 GMT -5
Nemesis blows. It was one of those "could have been a good movie if people could have gotten their heads out" but instead they just made a fairly mediocre, and predicable movie, that should have been better than it was. I would elaborate, but I don't want to spoil.
Because I'm only fresh for two weeks...and only if you keep me in the fridge..with the lid on!
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