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Post by Head Mutant on May 31, 2007 8:32:54 GMT -5
I think we really need a thread where we can ask each other's opinion on unanswered movie questions, to see what we can do to help each other.
Here's mine for today: in Donnie Darko, Donnie's girlfriend (what'shername) gets a phone call toward the end of the movie that suggests that her mom is in trouble from her dad (I think). But this is never fully explained, resolved or referenced again. Is there something I missed, or some other connection with the greater timeline?
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Post by DocD83 on May 31, 2007 19:20:12 GMT -5
I don't think there's much to it. Early on she explains that she (Gretchen, wasn't it?) and her mom are in hiding from her dad, so that sets it up. After she goes home to find her house torn up and her mom missing, the cops tell her to go to a friend's place, and from then to the end of the film is only a couple hours. Not much time for it to be resolved, and she was probably all to happy to think about something else at the time.
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Post by DocD83 on Jul 7, 2007 20:07:14 GMT -5
Ok, I've got one: In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, what's up with the ceiling in the Hogwart's great hall? Early on it goes nuts so the guy with the fake eye zaps it, and later on it's no longer enchanted, or at least it was darkened. Did the eye guy destroy it? If he did, why didn't anyone react at the time?
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Post by sarahbot on Jul 8, 2007 2:47:58 GMT -5
I'm going to leave that one to Lissa, but I've got a TV question. In season 1 of Buffy, Angel says he has no breath, so Xander is the one who gives Buffy CPR and brings her back to life the first time. So it's presumably not just that he doesn't breathe, but that he can't force air in and out of his lungs even if he wanted to. Yet Spike smokes all the time. Wouldn't that require some sort of breathing motion?
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Post by StarOpal on Jul 8, 2007 9:00:03 GMT -5
I'm going to leave that one to Lissa, but I've got a TV question. In season 1 of Buffy, Angel says he has no breath, so Xander is the one who gives Buffy CPR and brings her back to life the first time. So it's presumably not just that he doesn't breathe, but that he can't force air in and out of his lungs even if he wanted to. Yet Spike smokes all the time. Wouldn't that require some sort of breathing motion? If somebody comes up with an answer for this, I have a few questions of my own! The logic behind Buffy's vampire physicality is right up there with zombie diets in things I try not to think about or else it ticks me off. Namely, how, even though it's established that vampires have NO circulation (in the Thanksgiving episode where they tie up Spike), vampires are still capable of being poisoned or (in the case of males) having traditional sex. I mean really! *huff* |
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Post by sirgallahad2 on Jul 8, 2007 11:28:53 GMT -5
Really not so much a movie question. In the Donald Duck cartoons of yester-year, Donald duck NEVER wears pants. Yet, anytime he gets out of a shower, he wraps a towel around his waist. Buh???
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Post by Storm_Rider on Jul 8, 2007 14:22:56 GMT -5
Ok, I've got one: In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, what's up with the ceiling in the Hogwart's great hall? Early on it goes nuts so the guy with the fake eye zaps it, and later on it's no longer enchanted, or at least it was darkened. Did the eye guy destroy it? If he did, why didn't anyone react at the time? I hope Lisa won't mind but I'd like to answer this one. First of all that particular scene is not from the book. Indeed in the book just before Mad-Eye Moody - who was already Barty Crouch Jr. by that time - enters the Great Hall there is "a deafening rumble of thunder" and then there are two flashes of lightning that put his face into perspective for the people in the Hall thus making for quite a powerful entrance. I think they made up that scene in the movie for the same reason, in order to introduce Mad-Eye with a similar effect that the book did, but much like Hollywood they didn't go for the more subtle, they went for pure CGI action. In movie terms he didn't destroy the enchantment he just made the clouds go away. Also I think that the enchantment on the Great Hall's ceiling could only be broken by someone like Dumbledore or Voldemort, since the castle is filled with ancient magic that only these two would know much about. And it's Hogwarts not Hogwart's.  |
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Post by DocD83 on Jul 8, 2007 18:31:56 GMT -5
I figure it's a matter of implied nudity--normally his shirt implies that he's fully clothed, but without the shirt it's implied that he's fully nude. Since his feathers keep him from ever actually being fully nude, he exists in a perpetual state of semi-undress at all times, and normal human standards don't really apply.
Either that or the animators thought it'd be funny.
That begs the question: did Moody/Barty cause the thunder and lightning for effect, or did the ceiling react to the presence of the enemy? Or does the ceiling just have storms at times? (I should probably read these books, but isn't it almost 4000 pages all told?)
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Post by StarOpal on Jul 8, 2007 20:35:00 GMT -5
That begs the question: did Moody/Barty cause the thunder and lightning for effect, or did the ceiling react to the presence of the enemy? Or does the ceiling just have storms at times? (I should probably read these books, but isn't it almost 4000 pages all told?) Well, I'd have to go back and watch that scene in the movie to be sure, but I think the whole thing was for dramatic effect. In the books the ceiling is enchanted to seem like there is no ceiling. So sunny day outside = sunny day in the Hall. Rainy = rainy. Whatever it is outside is what you see inside. |
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Jul 8, 2007 22:22:52 GMT -5
If somebody comes up with an answer for this, I have a few questions of my own! The logic behind Buffy's vampire physicality is right up there with zombie diets in things I try not to think about or else it ticks me off. Namely, how, even though it's established that vampires have NO circulation (in the Thanksgiving episode where they tie up Spike), vampires are still capable of being poisoned or (in the case of males) having traditional sex. I'll go you one better- how does an avowed atheist like Joss Whedon reconcile that with including crosses in BtVS as a deterrent to vampires? If that's your belief, wouldn't you want to stick with nonsecular vamp repellants like garlic and silver and holly? I wonder if he was forced to include holy artifacts by the filmmakers (and later, network execs) or something. -D |
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Post by Spiderdancer on Jul 9, 2007 10:48:59 GMT -5
You mean stick with -secular- vamp repellants?
"Secular" means nonreligious or unrelated to religion.
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Jul 9, 2007 11:05:46 GMT -5
You mean stick with -secular- vamp repellants? "Secular" means nonreligious or unrelated to religion. Yep. -D |
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Post by Storm_Rider on Jul 9, 2007 11:21:29 GMT -5
That begs the question: did Moody/Barty cause the thunder and lightning for effect, or did the ceiling react to the presence of the enemy? Or does the ceiling just have storms at times? (I should probably read these books, but isn't it almost 4000 pages all told?) Well, I'd have to go back and watch that scene in the movie to be sure, but I think the whole thing was for dramatic effect. In the books the ceiling is enchanted to seem like there is no ceiling. So sunny day outside = sunny day in the Hall. Rainy = rainy. Whatever it is outside is what you see inside. Yep all across the board, dramatic effect, like I said earlier the scene is there just to introduce Mad Eye in a powerful way. In the movie it seems to be that the ceiling "malfunctions", since Moody says "Stupid ceiling" after he zaps it, or maybe it was just volume control  |
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Post by Lissa on Jul 9, 2007 13:36:38 GMT -5
Yes, you should read the books. They're long, but they're so much better than the movies. Ron's character would agree with me. The ceiling in the Great Hall reflects the weather outside. When the kids arrived at Hogwarts, it was raining (all day). This is also in the books (as long as I'm remembering my books right), for no real particular reason that I can discern other than it does sometimes rain Moody zapping the ceiling is a movie thing, and I agree, it was effect. Very annoying. Well, the cigarette can burn regardless. But the truth is that Spike smokes because fangirls think that cool bad boys should smoke (especially English), and Joss adhered to this tradition Who needs logic when you're creating vampires? I don't know. He made Shepard Book a Christian, and Inara an Buddhist. And crosses are really convenient. Wearing a cross around your neck is far more normal than wearing a head of garlic Just because you're an atheist doesn't mean you can't respect and portray other religions. |
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Post by DocD83 on Jul 9, 2007 14:35:58 GMT -5
You can smoke a cigarette by pulling air with your mouth (you don't get much out of it, but, whatever). If he can muster the control to talk he can do that. Of course, talking requires a source of compressed air too....
Maybe chalk that no breathing thing up to them not thinking things through, yeah?
Having seen the movies won't spoil all the fun of the books' plots would it?
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