LOST, season 2, owns me

[dajaymann]

I am dismayed, nay, ASTOUNDED that there is not more love for Lost on this board, enough that I went and made a new thread for it. Especially for season two. Every single episode this season has been a real flippin' roller coaster. And because of this, I stand by my assertion that this may be the best show ever, especially for geeks who like to overanalyze everything like me!

So, who else wants to come out and show their love for Lost Season 2? Y'all been keepin' up with it?







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What did y'all think of the map from last night?

Here's an image with a LOT of deciphering on it: img96.imageshack.us/img96/3356/maptranscription3ui.jpg

[blinkfan]

I followed Lost season 1 for a bit but ive been more preoccupied with my band latley so

[Al]

l wrapped up my Season 1 DVDs about 8 or 9 episodes into Season 2, so I figured I'll wait this round out as well. When S2 comes out for purchase, I'm planning on taking a few vacation days and hermetically sealing myself in the basement for a Lostathon. So despite the untold amounts of Lost love in my bosom, I'm behind the 8-ball enough that everything I have to say is -- like -- so four months ago. But just you wait for Season 3, I'll be all over it.

Al

[dajaymann]

I know a couple of people who are doing the same exact thing, Al. Let me tell you, the awesome of Season 2 overshadows the awesome of Season 1 ten-fold. Why?

Well, I thought Season 1 kinda fell into a slump about mid-season, then really picked up again right before the finale. There has been no slump in Season 2, and we are mid-season already, with about six, maybe seven more episodes to go.

[sarahbot]

I missed last week's episode (thought it was Thursday, not Wednesday), but I loved last night's episode. I thought the twist easily established it as one of, if not the best, episodes this season. I mean, any TV show can have a character get pregnant. But to throw out a possible answer like that, then suggest that it could just as easily be false . . .

And if all that above sounded a bit awkward, it's because I was trying to keep it spoiler-free.

[kylerexpop]

'lost' is a tough one for me. i know a TON of people who practically worship it in the way i worship blue mountain dew. often, they get angry at me when i tell them that not only do i not feel any warmth towards lost but that i also tend to think it's fairly lame when i turn it on.

i WANT to like it. i don't know. i dig the concept and i dig the cast. i think the intangibles tend to let me down whenever i try to get into it; specifically, the execution of plot twists and dialogue. hard to explain or quantify, i know. mostly, i think it's another show where the cryptic dialogue isn't "cute" or "artful" enough to distract from the fact that if characters simply spoke more plainly and forcefully, things would get accomplished a whole lot faster and more effectively. i'm all for cryptic dialogue, but when characters never make any kind of utilitarian sense in lieu of always striking philosophical poses instead, it's annoying.

that said, i'm going through a pile of accumulated vhs tapes literally from years past, and watched the "lost: revelations" special along with the season 2 finale. both held my interest and got me actively involved in the story, so now i'm looking forward to checking out the start of season 3. if it's more 'indiana jones' this year as claimed, i'll proclaim my newfound fun for it. exciting!

speaking of annoying: like desmond (who is awesome), i like to call people "brother" a lot. ("can you make sure there are plenty of pickles and black olives on that spicy italian, please, brother?") you might think you have to adapt that saying depending on gender, but i find that if you don't really care (as i don't) "brother" works for EVERYBODY. hooray!

[Lissa]

What Al said. And Duckie and I, docs that we are, are going to figure out how to program our VCR so we don't have to be so far behind for season 3.

Although I have to admit I'm not that into Jack. Love the others, but Jack kind of bores me.

[Magill]

Jack bores me, too. And I can't stand Kate. I thought it was ridiculous how we had like 4 Kate-focused episodes before we got one for Shannon.

[famousmortimer]

Too slow. Season 1 got away with it because the concept, acting and dialogue were excellent, but I bowed out after about 10 episodes of series 2 had got us...nowhere. Way too little happens in it, I know they've got a 5 year story arc planned but it looks like they only wrote 3 years of plot.

[kylerexpop]

well, since i was able to rent each disc for $1 a pop, i figured renting lost season 1 for $6 would be a worthwhile expenditure. i'm watching the first disc as we speak: that first episode was cool. i guess if i'm going to get into lost, now is the time.

[Lissa]

Yeah, I'm not that into Kate, either, although we at least just watched the episode with her original crime. Locke... it depends on my mood. But I adore Sayid (not to mention he's incredibly easy on the eyes) and Charlie and Claire, Hurley, and Jin and Sun. I even like Sawyer, except that he's into Kate (I'm rarely that into love triangles.) Actually, I think I like most of the other characters- it's just Jack and Kate that I can't warm up to. Locke may creep me out at times, but I think that's actually intentional.

[kylerexpop]

season 1 is fun! i think i'm about halfway through, so if i don't sleep tonight i should be a-okay with 'lost,' and with life in general, i think.

i don't want to watch season two, though. i sort of remember seeing bits and pieces ('lost' is on at just the right time that when i get home from yoga, i can turn it on while i make a late dinner and sort of pay attention to it) and i know it doesn't live up to the awesomeness of early season 1 that i've watched thus far.

can anybody just kind of sum up season 2 for me? i would dig it! thanks, brothers and sisters!

[nellhows]

I avoided this thread until I finished the DVDs. Just in time apparently.

Anyway, summary of Season 2 (spoilers go here)



Seriously, spoilers upcoming












Jack, Locke, and Kate make it into the hatch, and find a crazy Scottish guy there whose boat ran aground on the island 3 or 4 years earlier. When he got there, he was told by a guy (now dead) to punch Hurley's numbers into this old computer, or else the world would end. Nobody knows what would happen. Anyway, Scottish guy (Desmond) takes off, leaving the plane crash survivors to punch in the numbers.

Meanwhile, Sawyer, Jin, and Michael are left floating with flotsam and jetsam (jetsom?) of there raft, with Walt taken by the others. They drift to the other side of the island, where they meet 5 survivors of the tail section of the plane. They go across the island to the main group of survivors, and Ana Lucia, one of the tail folks, shoots Shannon by accident.

Tribes merge. We discover that the others kidnapped most of the tail guys in a few raids. First they went after the tough guys, then the good guys.

Once the tribes are together, Michael starts going crazy, learns how to shoot a rifle (which was in the hatch), and then goes off looking for Walt.

Later, Rousseau, the crazy French chick captures a guy in a net. He is taken back to the hatch (where Locke and Jack are still pushing the button), and is tortured by Sayid to find out if he is an Other. He denies it, but they find proof that he is. So Michael comes back, and shoots Ana Lucia and Libby (another taily), lets the Other go.

Then he gets Jack, Sawyer, Kate, and Hurley to go with him to raid the Others' camp. He does this because the others told him he needed to do it to get Walt back. Sayid smells a trap, so he goes ahead of them in Desmond (the Scottish guy's) boat. Anyway, they fall for the trap, the Others take Jack, Sawyer and Kate, and tell Hurley to stop the anyone else from coming for them.

While this is going on, Locke believes that the button in the hatch doesn't need to be pushed, so he locks out Mr. Eko (another taily), and destroys the computer. When the timer runs out, an electromagnet starts going crazy, so Desmond sacrifices himself doing the big shutoff. End of season.

I think that's basically it. Charlie went crazy for a while. Sawyer conned Jack and Locke to control all the guns, but they got them back eventually. Sun is pregnant. Rose's husband was a taily as well.

Hope this helps! I should maybe do some work now.

[Head Mutant]

I just finished Season Two on DVD (unlike 99% of the world, I'm going to just wait until next year for Season Three to be released... I've got enough other stuff to watch).

I think I actually enjoyed Season Two MORE than One, and One was pretty cool. The show lives and dies on two fundamental points: the mysteries of the characters, and the mysteries of the island. Obviously, season One was able to have more surprising revelations of the characters, as we knew nothing about them, but Two had a few really great tales (what Kate did, Mr. Eko and anything involving Hugo). Sun and Jin's story has almost come about 180 degrees from what we saw of them in the pilot (or, at least, assumed), and I've grown to care for some of these characters very much. Charlie's mid-season meltdown was not fun at all to witness.

As for the Island mystery, I love the hatches and the Dharma Initiative stuff (although I'm convinced that much if it's completely fake, there are no experiments period), ambivelant about the Others, and intrigued by the notion that Desmond said of the Island being the only thing out there, like a big snowglobe. Probably not true, considering the last moments of the finale (the first time we've presumably seen the outside world AFTER the plane crash), but interesting.

You can see the writers playing a dangerous game with the show, trying to avoid the Twin Peaks/X-Files phenom -- that is, have a huge central mystery, but then either solve it and lose audience interest, or string the audience along forever and frustrate them. I think they do a great job with a third option: giving us enough answers to continually satisfy our need for them, but also continuing to stack up additional mysteries on top of what we already have. Either they're going to pull this show off in the end (and it really HAS to have a definite conclusion 1-3 more years down the road) or it's going to fall apart completely.

[Hilasophy]

Call me naive and optimistic, but I have this hope that the powers that be in the tv world will recognize that putting on a show for a few seasons and then releasing it on DVD is enough. That way you don't have the horrible fall-out of a show like the X-Files (Alias, Roswell, and any other show I stopped watching but really loved initially). I think the first example of this is going to be Prison Break. From what I've gathered the writers of PB really don't have a plan after this season and are considering just ending it. I think that would be a brilliant idea, just turn TV into extended mini-series (major-series?).