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Post by StarOpal on Aug 31, 2006 9:37:08 GMT -5
THANK YOU! Thank you very much! That just makes me so crazy when a movie does that.
My mother and I came up with some theories about M's motivations in order to save our respective sanities:
1. He hired Q to hunt down Hyde. Plus he's an old man, what's he gonna do? A good idea if the movie took place in a world where logic works, meh.
2. He messed up Venice a) as a diversion and b) to move along the war to make money off of it. Now why he was there while it was blowing up hurts my brain to try and figure out...
Now what I want to know is this. Why did Medicine Man wait until Q was in the ground to fix him up? Why didn't he stick around to help dig Q out?
This movie depresses me so much, there's nothing I hate more than wasted potential.
Great Mutant Viewing Mr. J.
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Post by Head Mutant on Aug 31, 2006 10:07:35 GMT -5
Good thoughts, Opal. Interesting thoughts. Thoughts that will plague my dreams forever.
Yet of course the axiom of film making is that if the filmmakers can't make the plot clear to understand to most of the audience, then they failed -- even if there is some convoluted apologist explanation lurking out there.
To me, LXG suffered from a severe case of waffling. They could've gone much darker with it (staying more true to the source graphic novels) or had a lot more fun and lightened up the tone (which would've been more enjoyable to watch, instead of looking at grumpy people who don't want to be in the same room together) and probably improved things all around. The setting, steampunk tech and designs are to be applauded.
At least this wasted potential turned into something fun to write about. And it didn't take nearly as long as my last few viewings, which I'm enormously grateful for.
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Post by StarOpal on Aug 31, 2006 11:36:05 GMT -5
Good thoughts, Opal. Interesting thoughts. Thoughts that will plague my dreams forever. ... You still need a hug, young man? Anyway, yeah I totally agree with you on that it waffled. Same problem with Van Helsing. You can see the good ideas and creativity flickering at the edges, but it's all handle so terribly that they're snuffed out cruelly and without mercy. So depressing. *sigh* Excuse me while I go curl up with Hellboy and The Brothers Grimm. EDIT: Just to clarify, because they're entertaining, if not great, movies. Not because of some weird fantasy. |
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Post by Head Mutant on Aug 31, 2006 12:33:57 GMT -5
Always need the hugs. I'm aspiring to be a non-chalant goth, but goths need love (and makeup) too.
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Post by Spiderdancer on Aug 31, 2006 15:01:19 GMT -5
Man, that was really, really funny. "Who needs to turn when you have the world's only auto-mo-bile?"
Having seen the movie first, I was pretty startled by how gritty the comic was when I started reading it. The movie never comes close to suggesting just how awful Hyde is, and this Tom Sawyer character would have been disemboweled in minutes. Mina, ridiculous as she is in the film, is deeply annoying in the comic book, though. Quatermain is whiny and insecure, not Sassy Sean Connery. Invisiman... Erk. I think Nemo is about the only one to be more or less similar.
Viewings like this one make the movie a lot more fun than the Overly Graphic Novel, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by PoolMan on Sept 1, 2006 18:53:09 GMT -5
I totally agree with you on that it waffled. Same problem with Van Helsing. Ah, Van Helsing. AKA "The Subject of 80% of all Mutant Review From Hell Applications in 2004". Excuse me while I go curl up with Hellboy and The Brothers Grimm. EDIT: Just to clarify, because they're entertaining, if not great, movies. Not because of some weird fantasy. I was going to write up the Brothers Grimm, but couldn't work up the energy in the end. Such a... non-entity of a movie. I think that's the word. Hellboy was fun, though. |
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Post by starwenn on Sept 2, 2006 21:36:09 GMT -5
I watched LXG with my mother and brother when it first came out on video, and while there were some things I liked about it (the afore-mentioned design, some action sequences, drooling over Dorian Gray), I didn't like it as much as my mother, who thought - and still thinks - it's wonderful. I mostly side with all of you and Justin. Not horrible, but many, many missed opportunities. (And my mother usually has much, much better taste than that. I guess you could call her one of the original Mutants. She introduced ME to everything from the "Star Wars" series to the only "Star Trek" movie I ever liked, "Wrath of Khan" and Indiana Jones.)
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Sept 3, 2006 0:42:07 GMT -5
Ah, Van Helsing. AKA "The Subject of 80% of all Mutant Review From Hell Applications in 2004". Hey, don't knock it; it worked out for one person, at least... -D |
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Post by Ms. Jellybean on Sept 10, 2006 14:41:54 GMT -5
Mmmkay, just got done reading this mutant viewing (I've had to go through it in fits and starts), and I must say... immensely entertaining. I couldn't agree more with the introduction... LXG just hangs in that balance that is so... maddening.
The LXG Mutant Viewing: Perfect for diverting college students' attention from their homework.
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Post by varana on Oct 6, 2006 14:58:52 GMT -5
Would anyone believe that my ex-husband listed this as his "all time favourite movie, becaue the car and submarine looked SOOOO cool"....
Sad, huh?I really didn't lose much when he left me for a younger, skinnier woman.
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Post by sarahbot on Oct 9, 2006 13:13:49 GMT -5
I'm just about finished reading Vol. 1 of the comic book. Heavens to Betsy! How, how, HOW, are the book and movie related at ALL? I'd read this review before, and I understand what he means now re: his girlfriend refusing to see the movie because of what they did to Mina. Mina kicks arse in the books! What the heck happened? |
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Post by Spiderdancer on Oct 9, 2006 14:33:05 GMT -5
Uh... "Kicks arse" in the sense of "is a victim/emotional object for all of the other characters"?
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Post by sarahbot on Oct 10, 2006 13:43:52 GMT -5
Not in the literal, ripping-people-to-bits way like Hyde, but more in the not a sad little girl who exists only as a hot babe way. I mean, she brought the whole team together. She's got a sense of power in the books - she may not be a vampire, but she's the one in charge of the team. There's a reason she's Murray in the books and Harker in the movie. Mina in the movie would never have divorced her husband and took back her name. She would have just tossed her hair around and complained about him while Tom looked on like a sap.
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