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Post by rabidmonkeys on Jan 4, 2009 21:43:32 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't offend anyone... i thought it was funny as hell. ;D objectiveministries.org/zounds/gaming.html#zombiesthe Spore review is great.. I love how he claims Satire is a combination of the words 'Satan' and 'Ire', LOL the rest of the site is pretty funny too |
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Post by eatmyshorts on Jan 4, 2009 23:19:07 GMT -5
Wow, thanks, 'twas hilarious!
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Post by wdm0744 on Jan 6, 2009 10:29:53 GMT -5
I have serious doubts that this website is what it seems. I clicked on some links and read some more of the site, and I get the sense that this website is a satirical joke itself.
I'm a Christian and I certainly hope this is a joke.
I have a hard time believing that any true Christian would believe such crazy things and expouse such hate.
Sure, some Christians don't like video games or believe that the violence in games like MGS4 is damaging to young minds, but I don't know anyone who would say that MGS is designed to train a pro-Satan army or that Tertis is a secret Soviet mind control tool.
The whole site is playing on some of the most obvious sterotypes of Christian culture. Even the pictures in the bio section and the ad banners look manufactured. Not to mention that the biographies themselves are beyond outlandish.
I really think this was meant to be a joke to make fun of true Christianity.
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Post by wdm0744 on Jan 6, 2009 11:01:33 GMT -5
It is a hoax, thank God. I did some googling, and here's what I found: www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/618/answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080218093250AA2pvjQwww.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=263x10138bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/2006/06/24/objective-ministries-web-site/That's just a few of the things that came up using a simple google search. As a Christian, I did find this website to be deeply offensive (if, yes, funny too). It's not your fault though, rabidmonkeys. It is the people who made the website. Believe me - there are members of the Christian community who believe some pretty outlandish (and unbiblical) stuff, but nothing half as crazy as the stuff in this website. Christians are often portrayed as uneducated, willfully ignorant hillbillies who want to force everyone to follow their line of thinking. While there are some bad apples who inspire every sterotype, let me assure you that I have grown up in the Christian community and that the kind of lunancy presented in that website is far from the truth. Chrisianity is system of belief and a way of life that is a very logical, reasoning, thinking, and compassionate response to a loving God revealed in the Bible. While we Christians do not always live up to these values, they are the very basis of our existence. I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, but if the stuff on this website really represented true Christianity, I would feel ashamed. Anyway, I hope I've at least begun to set the record straight. Here's one Christian who loves to play "secular" video games. |
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Post by jman912 on Jan 6, 2009 11:39:45 GMT -5
the left 4 dead review was hilarious.
i wish i wasn't dealing with the RRoD right now so I could go play it
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Jan 6, 2009 13:14:11 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing that mess up, WD40. As a Christian myself, I got highly confused when I read that DDR has communist overtones. I mean, really? I come from a small town in Central Kentucky and was brought up Separate Baptist and even I've never met anyone that nutsy bobo. EDIT: I thought Attack of the Sunday School Zombies was pretty funny. Am I a bad person for wanting to play that?  |
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Post by rabidmonkeys on Jan 7, 2009 2:09:23 GMT -5
oh wow.. I just assumed it was satire. It just seemed too crazy to be real, lol. But I am agnostic, so perhaps coming as an outsider is a different perspective...
LOL i just noticed the polls on the side... "What console would Jesus Play?" and "Would you use cheat codes?"
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Jan 7, 2009 9:47:18 GMT -5
oh wow.. I just assumed it was satire. It just seemed too crazy to be real, lol. See, this is where I get frustrated at the inability to read tone over the computer screen. Something like this reads to me as slightly condescending. Except for the "lol" thrown in for good measure, of course. I hope that I'm wrong, because I know neither WD40 nor myself talked that way to you. What is that supposed to mean? And please tell me you're not suggesting WD40 and I are "insiders" to the kind of belief and school of thought being made fun of. As you stated, that site was satire (nice word for mockery) of a particular faith, not a real representation of Christianity, and I do not want to be lumped in with it merely because I am of the group being lampooned. As for myself, I didn't give the site more than a cursory glance to check out the Spore review mentioned and I couldn't help notice the part about DDR (as a rabid fan I guess I'm automatically drawn). I quickly left the site because I get no joy in reading and posting things that are mockeries of others' beliefs and portraying those people as blithering idiots. But then I'm a Christian so maybe I look at things from a different perspective... |
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Post by rabidmonkeys on Jan 7, 2009 23:15:46 GMT -5
It never occurred to me that people would take it seriously. Thats why I put 'Christian' in the title in quotation marks. I didn't mean to sound condescending. I respect other people's beliefs and religions, just like I'd like anyone to respect my right not to have one.
I simply meant that anyone coming whatever perspective and/or background they have would bring a different interpretation to things. Of course I wasn't suggesting that you or WD believed in teh same things on that website, because I am aware that there are false stereotypes about christians and that no group is homogenous in their beliefs or practices.
As for satire, I do believe that as an art form anything that human beings involve themselves in is ripe for satire. But I do believe that there is a difference between making a mockery of something and satire.. I'm not sure I can explain that as I haven't thought that through myself, but there is a line in satire where you are exaggerating the extreme end of a way of life to make a point versus dismissing that way of life entirely, which would not be satire and more making a mockery of something. But I don't think that one can dismiss one form of satire because it is poking at one's own beliefs but enjoy other kinds (if they do). In fact the best satire often comes from those that are immersed in teh way of life that they are poking fun at.
I didn't think it portrayed Christians as blithering idiots at all, to me it was poking fun at those within any belief system that take those to an extreme...
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Jan 8, 2009 0:00:30 GMT -5
Well if it is as you say and you intended no derision in the way that you began your post, or by saying that you as an agnostic hold a different (more enlightened?) perspective, then my apologies. As I stated I am frustrated that tone is not readable through a computer screen, but from the looks of the thing it seemed that was the mood being put across. As for the definition of satire, I have to disagree. I'm perfectly capable of poking fun at certain people who, in my opinion, go overboard into a cult-like status with their religion, whether or not they say they are of my faith. Yet it's difficult to read a generalized derision about your beliefs/ethnicity/place of origin and not feel a twinge of personal attack, regardless of which group you belong to. 'tis a good reason why our forum generally tries to stay away from such subject matter. But....if not for the horrible graphics I would wanna play Dance Praise. I'm an insane addict. It's all I can do not to complete my collection with the tween Disney version, Communist or not.  |
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Post by DTH on Jan 8, 2009 14:46:20 GMT -5
Just my £0.02p: I personally didn't get a negative vibe from Rabidmonkeys and think it is just one of those "forum moments", you know, like BCWC says, where you can't tell the tone of someone's potentially offensive post, so can't tell intention.
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Post by sirgallahad2 on Jan 8, 2009 17:50:41 GMT -5
I came into this post a bit late so here she goes. Taking the Objective Ministries site on it's own merits... Yeah, it's a hoax. WDM 0744 all ready pointed this out, it's a fraud (noted) but it's obvious from The web site post that it HAS to be a hoax. When I used to go to church oh-so-long-ago, there were people I knew that would have gotten excited over a site like objective ministries. THAT particular church (not ALL churches mind you. Some churches are rather pleasant and accepting.) had a rather sizeable share of kooks, fanatics, and 12-gauge wacko-loons. The scary part is... What if the objective ministries site was NOT a hoax. What if WDM0744 had not been able to find any evidence of Hoax-erie? That would scare me a bit. Not "Jesus Camp" (Documentary released in 2007) pants-wetting-terror, but it would give me the creeps.
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