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Post by Hucklebubba on May 31, 2007 21:02:33 GMT -5
So I was watching a Lifetime murder mystery a little bit ago--just the first five minutes or so; settle down--and it got me thinking (which means I've completely perverted the intentions of its creators).
Okay, so there's this girl, right? And she does stuff, and meets up with this guy who's some sort of businessman, and they hit it off (this is still within the first five minutes).
It's immediately apparent that Businessman is a serial killer, because he's charming and attractive, but more importantly because it's a Lifetime murder mystery and he's the first major male character we see. Long about minute four, Businessman throws the shmooze valve open all the way, saying something to the effect of, "She did a good job raising a princess all by herself," in reference to the girl's widowed mother.
This translates roughly as, "I'm going to try to kill you pretty soon, but don't worry, you'll end up killing me instead, albeit completely by accident."
My question is as follows, and I'm asking not in the context of laughably predictable made-for-tv dramas, but real life:
To the best of any of your knowledge, has there ever been a time when pretty men could spout flowery crap and not have their speech instantly identify them as being creeps? I mean, has that sort of thing ever been considered romantic? Or, am I way off base in the other direction, and it still is considered romantic?
Just curious.
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Post by PoolMan on Jun 3, 2007 21:34:31 GMT -5
Chilling silence... the worst possible answer...
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Jun 4, 2007 13:06:47 GMT -5
Maybe he should have bought them a round of drinks first.
-D
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Post by Hucklebubba on Jun 4, 2007 23:01:41 GMT -5
Chilling silence... the worst possible answer... Arguably the most popular, as well. I can see a couple of places where I may have misspoken, but I'm reluctant to inquire further. Perhaps we could pretend this thread never happened, yes? And in exchange I'll try not to think out loud so much in the future. |
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Post by pfrsue on Jun 5, 2007 7:23:51 GMT -5
Bearing in mind that I have never watched a Lifetime murder mystery in my life, I don't quite understand the degree of your questioning. Either you are asking:
Do women think that handsome, nice and well-spoken men are creepy?
or
Do women think that handsome, nice and well-spoken men who compose sonnets referring to the blueness of their eyes or the raven wingéd sleekness of their hair, utilizing iambic pentameter and a vintage lute on the first date... are creepy?
The answer would be that it depends on whether you met him in theater class or not.
To be more serious, women (at least sensible ones) do appreciate nice guys, but there is a rather prominent line between genuine niceness, condescending niceness, and "I have read 300.000 Harlequin Romance novels all written in the sixties and seventies that I found at a garage sale, and man, those dudes are almost always laid by pg. 57, so I'm quoting them verbatim and how'm I doing so far?" niceness.
Does that help?
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Post by Hucklebubba on Jun 5, 2007 12:54:06 GMT -5
Do women think that handsome, nice and well-spoken men who compose sonnets referring to the blueness of their eyes or the raven wingéd sleekness of their hair, utilizing iambic pentameter and a vintage lute on the first date... are creepy? Bingo. Well, kind of. Less vintage lute and sonnet, more wine glass and faux-clever flattering one-liner. And now someone else has to work my use of the word "bingo" and Sue's proximity into a cheap-shot "old" joke. Because while I personally find that to be somewhat mean, I still acknowledge that some things just gotta be done. |
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Post by pfrsue on Jun 5, 2007 13:26:48 GMT -5
And now someone else has to work my use of the word "bingo" and Sue's proximity into a cheap-shot "old" joke. Because while I personally find that to be somewhat mean, I still acknowledge that some things just gotta be done. *sigh* I'm fully expecting either Drew or Pooly to chime in about now. |
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Jun 5, 2007 13:49:42 GMT -5
Dude, Sue's old!
-D
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Post by coccatino on Jun 5, 2007 14:54:32 GMT -5
haha! Poor Sue!
Hucklebubba- any man with a wine glass is immediately suspect.
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Post by Head Mutant on Jun 5, 2007 15:29:17 GMT -5
Sweet! Where's my car?
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Post by PoolMan on Jun 6, 2007 9:55:07 GMT -5
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Post by pfrsue on Jun 6, 2007 18:59:00 GMT -5
Pooly and Drew? GO TO YOUR ROOMS!
There. I feel better.
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Post by Spiderdancer on Jun 7, 2007 5:27:46 GMT -5
In answer to the original question:
Depends on the woman. If she's in a LifeTime original movie, I'm guessing she's probably pretty stupid. Maybe she likes being patronized in a really verbose way. Some women do. And you're also asking something pretty personal in that women like different things in their guys.
I think it also depends on the individual woman's interpretation of motives or lack of ditto. When any guy starts talking to me of his own free will, rather than for work or a project, I immediately ask myself: Why is he talking to me? What is his goal for this interaction? Is it a goal I am likely to agree with? Then I adjust my responses accordingly, from chatting enthusiastically through unobtrusively checking the knife in my purse.
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Post by Head Mutant on Jun 7, 2007 10:38:17 GMT -5
I got the knife, twice, before Shalen believed that we really did want to hire her. The scars are almost healed, now.
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