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Post by Allyson Wonderland on Jan 14, 2004 18:43:39 GMT -5
I remember seeing Aragorn block the Trolls sword too and thinking "WAIT A MINUTE!" There is no way that he could have done that! The force of the trolls blow probably would have just sent is sword AND the trolls slamming into him!
Also, I noticed how Gollum didn't even start burning up until he was like, completely submerged in the BOILING HOT MAGMA! What's up with that?
Actually the style of the Gondorian armor (and the crown) reflects their Numenorean ancestry (even though most of them at the point of the War Of The Rings, most of them have about as much Numenorean blood in them as I do)
God I need a life.
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Post by bladestarr on Jan 14, 2004 19:22:54 GMT -5
As I said "It's in the script" ;D I'm no physics professor, but I would imagine that he would MELT instead of burning, seeing as how hot that lava was supposed to be. I'd imagine that if it was the only fire that could destory the One Ring, it must also be the only fire that can violate the laws of physics in that way.  |
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Post by Hucklebubba on Jan 15, 2004 11:21:54 GMT -5
Also, I noticed how Gollum didn't even start burning up until he was like, completely submerged in the BOILING HOT MAGMA! What's up with that? I have a theory as to why Gollum wasn't obliterated mid-fall like he probably should've been. It may not be even remotely correct, but it's no less my theory. It seems like the One Ring gradually imbues its bearer with a flimsy sort of undeadish semi-immortality. That could explain Gollum's lack of proper burning. |
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Post by PoolMan on Jan 15, 2004 12:05:09 GMT -5
Actually, that's a pretty good theory, Bubba.
But please. No more Rings physics... don't any of you remember the Great Mithril Scare of '03?
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Post by DocD83 on Jan 15, 2004 15:28:47 GMT -5
I thought it was in '01...or did we have two?
At any rate, I don't think that lava was any hotter than what you can find in any active volcano.
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Post by PoolMan on Jan 16, 2004 12:08:12 GMT -5
Maybe not, but apparently it's magical. Magic lava. Man, EVERYTHING in Tolkien's universe was magic, wasn't it?
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Post by DocD83 on Jan 16, 2004 14:48:55 GMT -5
Actually I recall reading that he specifically tried to limit the number of magical things in his stories, so that magic would remain special.
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Post by Hucklebubba on Jan 16, 2004 15:38:01 GMT -5
Man, EVERYTHING in Tolkien's universe was magic, wasn't it? The magical toilet paper dispensers, while very useful and convenient, are also somewhat invasive. |
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Post by PoolMan on Jan 16, 2004 16:10:22 GMT -5
he specifically tried to limit the number of magical things in his stories, so that magic would remain special. Really? Cause as big a fan as I am, once you're done with the thirty or so magic rings, the magic swords that EVERYONE has, the magic cloaks, the magic rope, the magic water vial, the magic river, and the actual wizards prominently features, you're pretty magicked out. I don't think it's actually a hyperbole to say that every member of the Fellowship has at least one magic item in his possession at one time or another. |
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Post by DocD83 on Jan 16, 2004 16:25:49 GMT -5
There are only 20 Rings of Power, and the Dwarven seven were lost and the Nine were held by the Nazgul. Elvish cloaks, the Palantir, magic swords, etc., while prominent, are actually very rare items.
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Post by PoolMan on Jan 16, 2004 16:42:33 GMT -5
Rare in terms of all of Middle Earth, sure. But from the story's point of view, we get nonstop magic stuff from the start to the end of the story!
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Post by DocD83 on Jan 16, 2004 17:07:53 GMT -5
That seems about right when you're running errands for a Maiar and a bunch of elves.
Recall though all the machinery that both Sauron and Saruman use...if Tolkien wasn't trying to reign in the amount of magic floating around he could have had them both conjure their armies and gear out of thin air.
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Post by PoolMan on Jan 16, 2004 17:47:09 GMT -5
Hm. Good point, that. Nice parry, old boy!
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Post by Lissa on Jan 16, 2004 19:52:39 GMT -5
One of the nicest things, though, about creating your own little world is that when people like us raise questions like this, you get to look them in the eye and say "Why is it that way? Because -I- said so!"
Magic, smagic, Maybe Tolkien was just after that satisfaction!
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