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Post by dajaymann on Mar 26, 2004 12:53:48 GMT -5
Tell ya what...I'll be on topic and express my views just this one time...
I love coinage. I used to have an excellent wine glass (a wine glass that was quite large, to clarify) that I used to fill up with random change during the week. Then, every so often, I'd take all the quarters and go to the arcade to play Police 911 or Crisis Zone. If I slacked in that respect, my wife would pull down the glass and count and roll up all that coinage to put into our savings account. Now, however, that wine glass is being directed to our baby's savings, so it's still doing great things. That don't involve me capping terrorists. Excellent.
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Post by PoolMan on Mar 26, 2004 14:52:47 GMT -5
Maybe that's why I'm coin-friendly... I do exactly that. When I get enough change together, it's a bonus $50 or $60 (dollar coins actually not included) that makes for a good free videogame here and there, or whatever.
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Post by Head Mutant on Mar 26, 2004 15:41:21 GMT -5
Why on EARTH would you carry ten single dollar coins around when you could have a ten dollar bill? I swear, you're making no sense, J. Why would you carry around 10 one-dollar coins if you could have a canadian 10-dollar bill? I would rather have the 10 dollar bill than 10 ones, but we're talking about ones here. And if I had the choice between a half pound of 10 one-dollar coinage or 10 light-and-feathery one-dollar bills, I elect going with something that isn't going to drag my pants down and that will save space. I am glad you have sufficient math skills to tell a one from a fifty. What does that have to do with what we're talking about, again? Because that seems to be a reason you gave for the appeal of one dollar coins -- they're easy to pick out among coins, because of their size. You like different sized coins and different colored bills for their visual identification that doesn't depend on telling numbers apart, which is cheeky, but it doesn't present a hardship to me to figure out how much money I have in my wallet either.
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Post by Magill on Mar 26, 2004 16:11:05 GMT -5
Because that seems to be a reason you gave for the appeal of one dollar coins -- they're easy to pick out among coins, because of their size. You like different sized coins and different colored bills for their visual identification that doesn't depend on telling numbers apart, which is cheeky, but it doesn't present a hardship to me to figure out how much money I have in my wallet either. It may not be a hardship for you, but if we had bills that were sized and colored by denomination, it would certainly be much less of a hardship for people with impaired or no vision or the intoxicated. As far as carrying around 10 singles, both the Euro and Canadian dollar come in 2 Euro/dollar coins. Which cuts your change in half, right there. And don't talk about how you could carry light and feathery $2 bills, because they're pretty scarce. Off topic--when I worked at my university's computer lab, one of the permanent staff members was a very odd man. A bunch of us went to a local greasy spoon for lunch and he was at my table. He had to leave early, so he left his share: $7.50. Which he paid in 3 $2 bills, a Sackie, and a 50-cent piece. How many people have even one of those denominations, let alone all 3 (or 5, if you count each bill separately)? Like I said, he was an odd man.
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Post by PoolMan on Mar 26, 2004 16:14:09 GMT -5
Man, some days I REALLY can't tell if you're actually trying to get under my skin or if you're just hunkered over your keyboard laughing your brains out. Probably both.
Anyways, you're missing the point. I don't walk around with a half pound of coins in my pocket at any time. Here's the procedure, and I'll warn you, it's boring.
- I start with the $20 bills the bank issues in the ABM. - I spend them. - If I get bill change, it goes in the wallet. - If I get coin change, it goes in my pocket. - At the end of the day, any "smaller than a dollar" change goes in a piggy bank for rolling on a distant day. Any "dollar or higher" coins get brought to work at my next convenience, and I put them in my desk. - Voila, instant lunch fund.
At any rate, it's all about habit and convenience. I'm very used to how I do things, and having to change it to paper single dollars is, like it or not, a change to the routine, and therefore a pain in my ass.
As for the numbers on bills thing, that's another argument entirely. I like that I can immediately tell what bill is what without individually examining each bill. That's all. And I've heard a few Americans relate stories of how they thought they paid out a $5 and it turned out to be a $20, or whatever. Doesn't happen when the value of a bill is evident even out of the corner of your eye.
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Post by Magill on Mar 26, 2004 16:20:00 GMT -5
And I've heard a few Americans relate stories of how they thought they paid out a $5 and it turned out to be a $20, or whatever. Doesn't happen when the value of a bill is evident even out of the corner of your eye. I've done that. I meant to tip a bartender $1 and I gave him a ten instead. He looked at it and said "I don't think you meant to give me this." I was thankful he told me. I guess it helped that I was a semi-regular and always tipped him pretty well. I should've added "the intoxicated" in my category of people who would benefit by size- and color-coded bills. To be further off topic (though that's not saying much, considering how this thread started), I have a bad habit of nearly losing stuff in bars. Just last night I was at the Death Cab for Cutie show and nearly lost my keys. My boyfriend and I were on the 2nd level of a club (it was an all-ages show, and they only allowed alcohol up there) and I had draped my jacket over the balcony rail. When I picked it up, I had noticed that some guys below me seemed to be trying to get my attention. They mouthed something about keys and I noticed that no, I didn't seem to have mine. They threw them up at me. Thank goodness for the kindness of strangers.
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Post by PoolMan on Mar 26, 2004 18:22:42 GMT -5
<singing>
You can always rely on the kindness of strangers...
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Post by Head Mutant on Mar 26, 2004 18:23:13 GMT -5
So how much does your desk weigh? When Vancouver slips and falls into the ocean, will treasure hunters think they've discovered a lost vault of pieces of one in a strangely-shaped treasure chest? And will you haunt them?
I think the final word is the endorsement of each said dollar. Over here we have a guy who, despite being handicapped by cherry trees and wooden teeth, waged a successful campaign to free an entire country from the tyranny of Rich's IQ. And tea taxes.
Over there, we have a bird. Possibly peeing in the water, or at least thinking about it. Bird is not leading any sort of historical revolution, it's merely thinking, "Hm. Worm or bug for dinner tonight?"
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Post by Uber on Mar 27, 2004 0:28:44 GMT -5
Well, I'm half in the bag right now, so no guarantees on the content of my postings...
The benefits of coins: easily used to solve disputes, you can chuck lower-valued coins at people who tick you off, rolling larger coins over your knuckles is pretty cool (unfortunately, I have ginormous fingers, which limit my dexterity). If the coin in question has a hole in it, you can make a nifty necklace out of them.
The benefits of paper bills: lighter, easier to organize, less likely to fall in between the cushions of the couch, makes the act of tipping in an "adult exhibition dancehall" much more entertaining.
The long and short of it is: if you're unhappy with your money, send it to me.
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Post by Hucklebubba on Mar 27, 2004 0:55:25 GMT -5
The benefits of coins: easily used to solve disputes, you can chuck lower-valued coins at people who tick you off, rolling larger coins over your knuckles is pretty cool (unfortunately, I have ginormous fingers, which limit my dexterity). If the coin in question has a hole in it, you can make a nifty necklace out of them. Also, using one's trusty Colt to deftly plug airborne currency is considerably less impressive when said currency is a gently floating dollar bill. Or possibly much more impressive. I forget which.
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Post by Vorlina on Mar 27, 2004 6:04:42 GMT -5
I'm totally with Pooly on this one - Canadian-UK coalition!
Having all your bills from $1 to $100 be the same size and colour is a silly idea, you spend valuable drinking time peering into your wallet and trying not to overtip the bartender. Here in the Mother Country, despite tea taxes, we are all different colours and sizes. And very few people carry huge bills anyway, we only go up to 50.
We moved from having those one pound bills to one pound coins a while back, and now we have two pund coins too!
To side step slightly, I find that I take out maybe 50 quids per cash point visit, which materialises generally as two twenties and a ten. Are fifty dollar bills more commonly given over there - I don't know many people apart from banker w**kers who wander around with fifty quid notes?
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Post by Head Mutant on Mar 27, 2004 7:51:27 GMT -5
Winkers?
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Post by DocD83 on Mar 27, 2004 8:39:54 GMT -5
I used to get a fair number of fifties and hundreds (that is to say, I requested them--ATMs don't give them), but I stopped because they were such a pain in the ass--no one can break them.
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Post by FiveMileSmile on Mar 29, 2004 4:02:13 GMT -5
Over here we have a guy who, despite being handicapped by cherry trees and wooden teeth, waged a successful campaign to free an entire country from the tyranny of Rich's IQ. And tea taxes. I'd just like to point out here that the tyranny of my IQ wasn't around in 1776, and let me tell you, it would have been a whole different ballgame if it had. You may laugh now, but just you wait till I get my hands on a time machine, and suddenly you're all under the benevolent rule of the British Empire once more. Mwahahahahahahaha. - Rich
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Post by Head Mutant on Mar 29, 2004 9:47:05 GMT -5
SETTING: Valley Forge, circa 1779
SENTRY [Hears a noise.] Hurh?
MYSTERIOUS MASKED FIGURE AHHHHHH! [SENTRY is crushed and then piledriven again for good effect.]
GEORGE WASHINGTON Forsooth! What goest there?
MYSTERIOUS MAN IN PURPLE SPANDEX It is I, Brock! Tryest thou to xplain that, Georgie!
SAM ADAMS [Walking up] Hey George, you really got to sample my latest batch, I found this field of hops that just gives the flavor a...
BROCK I have a message from the King... or possibly Queen... I can never keep it straight... of England! Surrender and this won't happen to you!
SAM ADAMS What the... [His head gets twisted off, then held up for the spectating crowd]
GEORGE WASHINGTON Sammieeeeeeee!
PAUL REVERE I must go warn the Minute Man! Letsee, how does it go. One for tacky, overinflated egos of steroid-pumped jocks, and two for silly showboating theatrics... [Rides away on his steed]
GEORGE WASHINGTON That's it, Brock! I'll put an end to you! And this time... it's REVOLUTIONARY!
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