the OFFICIAL comic books discussion thread!!!

[Head Mutant]

oogieboogieman said:

The issues of Christ's children and God leaving Heaven wouldn't be a big deal, as it's touched upon in Dogma

And if it's in Dogma, it's, you know, authoritative.

[TheOogieBoogieMan]

I'm just saying, it's not taboo to talk about that stuff in movies, because it's been done, is all...

[TheOogieBoogieMan]

...anyway, regarding the Preacher movie, here's an article that has both the most information on the script and film that I've found, and is also one of the oldest I've found.

filmforce.ign.com/articles/35980p1.html

Development Hell, indeed.

[kylerexpop]

you know what?

i don't know if anyone reads batman, but it seems to be really good. this stuff with the red hood is, like, really cool.

however: i don't actually buy batman. my comic shop is extremely cool about browsing, so i pretty much go in every week, read anything i want, and walk out with only grant morrison-scripted comics and the occasional "other." so i've been reading issues of the main batman book leaning against the back issues bins, and therefore maybe not be getting the absolute experience one gets from buying the comic, bringing it home, and reading it word-for-word multiple times.

but still: it seems cool. if the red hood is who he claims to be, even better, even though *spoiler*

my mom allowed me to vote back in the day when we lived in chicago, and things went the way i voted them to. as in "he go dead!"

*end spoiler*

but his dialogue is cool, his perspective is cool, and the ways he kicks it is cool.

*SPOILER SPECULATION!*

actually, i picked up a rumor from the dc boards that after the crisis, batman won't be bruce wayne, but will be someone else. some people think it'll be bane. i'm wondering if it could somehow be jason. wild! wild, i say!


GENERAL RECOMMENDATION

i can't remember if i already said this, but whatever: the tpb for "street angel" is out. buy it, read it, put it in a locked cabinet for a year, take it out, read it again. IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

[Al]

Since Kyle mentioned the Infinite Crisis, I have to ask: Now that we're ankle deep in both the it and the House of M, anyone have any thoughts? Is it all you hoped it would be or a boring gimmick to boost sales?

[TheLuckyOne]

Not having anything to do with Infinite Crisis- after reading the Countdown issue that essentially took a big poo on everything Giffen did with the Justice League, I'm just going to sneak into DC-land for my issues of Flash, Green Lantern, and JSA and cheerfully ignore the rest of their universe. Tell me when it's over. That extends to the bat-titles too, to address Kyle's earlier question- after War Games finished the complete decimation of Spoiler and Batman's character, I'll just wait till they launch All-Stars and read some stories about the real Batman, not this jerk.

House of M, my only slight interest is if they use it to heal the damage done to Magneto's character after Morrison's run. (Sorry, Kyle, but he DID mess Mags up pretty bad. He meant to, I know, but I can't say I'm a fan.) Other than that, I'm just annoyed it's interfering with titles I actually read.

-D

[Head Mutant]

poolman said:

ETA: Or maybe it was alpha and omega rays. Oh lordy, I'm so clever.

hahaha... you are a font of wit! Very funny.

I'm listening to a book on the Civil War in the car while I drive, and there was a really funny quote a guy said about a potential presidential candidate who was a raging egotist:

"I only have a problem with this man's theology. Apparently, he says that there are four persons in the Holy Trinity."

[TheLuckyOne]

Anyway, since we're vaguely on the topic of Batman, thought I'd post this summary of the latest Bat-crossover, the one that drove me screaming away from the books. Note that I didn't write it, but if I knew who did, I'd give him a cookie. No, two.

*************

BATMAN: I'm a [jerk].
SPOILER: I want to be Robin since Tim isn't.
BATMAN: Okay. You're Robin.
SPOILER: Yay!
BATMAN: You violated my direct orders in order to save my life. You are no longer Robin.
SPOILER: >

SPOILER: I'll show him! I will!
BATGIRL: ...

GOTHAM CRIMELORDS: Thanks for showing up to our summit meeting which will no doubt go extremely smoothly.
PENGUIN: But of course.
DEADSHOT: You know, I can actually tell just by looking at this crowd who's about to die.
GOTHAM CRIMELORDS: ARRGH DOUBLECROSS
GUNS: Bang!

GOTHAM CITY: ...is it summer already? Better explode, then.

BATMAN: We will get out of this if everyone in Gotham does exactly what I say. Always. Forever. Including the cops and my allies. Yep, I'm still a total [jerk].
ORACLE, CATWOMAN: We noticed.
NIGHTWING: Dude, did you see what you got me out of in my book? You're my best friend.
TARANTULA: ...you're totally gay. Gay for him.
ROBIN: Well, mobsters attacked my high school, so it's back into the tights for me.
BATGIRL: ...

ORPHEUS: I'm a pretty cool character who'll eventually wind up the king of the Gotham underworld if everything goes according to plan.
SPOILER: I know! I started all this after reading the plan in Batman's computer, in that folder marked "WAR GAMES -- DO NOT EVER ACTUALLY USE".
ORPHEUS: ...wow, you're pretty stupid.
SPOILER: Yeah? Look who let [bleep]in' Black Mask sneak up on him.
ORPHEUS: What? Ack! [dies]
BLACK MASK: So... I'm a villain, you're a hero, it's DC, it's 2004... how about some torture?
SPOILER: ...sure, I guess.

BATGIRL: I make punchy.
CATWOMAN: I also make punchy but with a lot more erect nipplage. Thanks, Paul Gulacy!

BATMAN: This all seems familiar for some reason. I wonder...
ORACLE: Hey, Bruce, you know how I do most of the heavy intellectual lifting around here? Listen to me.
BATMAN: No time. I have to fall for a really obvious trick.
BLACK MASK: I am so Orpheus.
BATMAN: So you are.
BLACK MASK: What's the plan?
BATMAN: Well, first I tell all the cops what to do, then I herd all the gangs together in one place...

GOTHAM CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT: You know, we think that this time, Batman's finally gone too far. Let's arrest him.
HARVEY BULLOCK: ...I hate my life.

SURVIVING GOTHAM CRIMINALS: Let's erupt into violence!
BATMAN: I miss Grant Morrison.
BLACK MASK: You're all under my control now, criminals! I'm making a power grab!
SURVIVING GOTHAM CRIMINALS: ...um, okay.

SPOILER: ...must... survive... long enough... to fix everything...
BATMAN: Spoiler, I found you! Don't worry, I know about everything that happened and I made sure to make the situation as bad as I possibly could.
SPOILER: ...dude, seriously. [Bleep] you. [comas]

HUSH: So, Masky, wanna know where the Batcave is?
BLACK MASK: But of course.
HUSH: It's in the clock tower in downtown Gotham.
BLACK MASK: That is not a cave in any way, shape, or form.
HUSH: "Batcave" is a metaphor.
BLACK MASK: ...well, okay then.

ORACLE: Bruce, you suck.
BATMAN: Busy right now.
ORACLE: Yeah? So am I. I've got supervillains attacking my base of operations.
BATMAN: Busy right now. Also, could you do something, you know, computery for me?
ORACLE: ...you're not even listening, are you?
BATMAN: Busy right now.
ORACLE: Tool.
BLACK MASK: Well, I think I'll torture you now... on network news!
BATMAN: ...oh [crap].
BLACK MASK: Look, everyone, it's the Batcave! And this here's the Bat-Cripple!
BATMAN: RAR I am suicidal for some reason.
BLACK MASK: Ow! My supervillain parts!
ORACLE: My God! For some reason Batman the expert martial artist is actually having a hard time with a lame-ass B-list villain that Catwoman killed in three panels! I'd better blow up the whole clock tower so I can play the victim and get Batman to save me!
BATMAN: Good plan.
ORACLE: I know.
BLACK MASK: I survived! No idea how.

ROBIN: I lied to the cops so they wouldn't arrest us. Now we're all persona non grata in Gotham.
NIGHTWING: I'm suicidal.
TARANTULA: I'm hot.
NIGHTWING'S MALE FANS: Nightwing, you dumbass.
BATGIRL: ...

BATMAN: What's that? Spoiler's dying? Better not tell anyone.
SPOILER: ...I was Robin, right?
BATMAN: Yeah, for like five minutes.
SPOILER: I could not hope for a better way to go out: as a meaningless death to top off a particularly idiotic crossover event. [dies]
BATMAN: I know, Stephanie. I know.

GOTHAM CITY PD: ...okay, screw this whole "Bat" thing. We're just going to do what we should've done in the first place and start [bleep]ing shooting anything we see with a mask.
BLACK MASK: Yeah, good luck with that.

BATMAN: We'll be here for the next gang war, and the one after that.
LESLIE THOMPKINS, ORACLE, CATWOMAN, SPOILER FANS: Bruce, you suck.

***************

The really sad part is that every single bit of that actually happened. And people wonder why we don't get any respect.

-D

[Hucklebubba]

Here comes a slight derailment into obscure land. . .

About a week ago, upon my completely accidental discovery of the existence of a Darkstalkers 6-issue mini, I was gosh darn happy as pea soup, for reasons explained by my sig-dweller.

It seems a TPB has already been released. It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Why not click here, look at the upper-left clingy woman, and say along with me, "What the. . .is that Vega?!"

[TheLuckyOne]

If you're that excited about a mini, how stoked will you be when you find out it's actually an ongoing?
;D

-D

[Hucklebubba]

Great grains, you're right! I guess I just assumed it was a mini.

Now I am as happy as a little girl.

[TheLuckyOne]

So remember how at the end of War of the Worlds, the Martians won and enslaved humanity? No? Probably because it didn't happen... but in a different reality, it did! Just a heads up to everyone: today, Marvel cashed in on the WotW buzz by releasing the Essential Killraven, chronicling the adventures of the leader of the human resistance against the Martians in a Mad Max-style apocalyptic future. The stories were published in the 70s and have been out of print for decades, so it's pretty cool that we're getting it now, cash-in move or not. I've never read the stuff, but there's a lot of positive word of mouth about it from sci-fi/fantasy fans who enjoy that sort of thing, so... fair warning!

-D

[mysteriorockanova]

I got Batman Year One last week. It was rad.

[TheOogieBoogieMan]

The next comic book(s) I get is dependent on what I get for my birthday. The ones I'm asking for is essentially any one of these: A Dame to Kill For, We3, the Nail, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the Watchmen, and the second Preacher tpb.

Unfortunately a lack of cash has prevented me from pursuing this new-found hobby further, so assuming I get any of these for my birthday, it will be my first one in a while.

[TheLuckyOne]

Watchmen. WATCHMEN!!!

Not that the others are bad in the slightest... LoEG is spectacular for literature nerds, the second Preacher trade is almost as good as the first (in fact, only 5, 7, and maybe 8 are the ones that don't quite match up to the others, not that they're bad), and A Dame To Kill For is pretty good, though not up to the first Sin City story. Don't know much about WE3 (bet Kyle does, though!), and I've heard good things about The Nail. All that said, though, Watchmen is definitely the greatest of them all. And that, my friend, is saying something.

-D