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Post by Head Mutant on Nov 16, 2008 13:32:55 GMT -5
Let's not forget Plague Dogs, please. I don't know how many kids saw that one, but whoever did is guaranteed to be in therapy for life.
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Post by coccatino on Nov 16, 2008 13:58:18 GMT -5
excellent article, all 4 of those movies definitely would top my list. Also, THIS scene from Dumbo - www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwNPaYoTY8and the final sequence of Fantasia www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ca_edg6RE (who thought it was a good idea to put that LAST in a movie designed to make kids fall asleep? ??) and definitely Watership Down. Agreed with previous posters on that one) so with that... WELEASE THE SECWET WEAPON!!!!!!!
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Nov 16, 2008 16:06:47 GMT -5
Firstly let me say thank you for saying my article was excellent, coccatino. That makes me feel really good! The Pink Elephants scene reminded me that when I was VERY young this sequence freaked me out. And yeah Drew had already mentioned Night On Bald Mountain, so I just will say : Come on, guys that was my favorite sequence! I had strange tastes as a child. I really was going to include that one, and I think the reason I didn't is because while it is decidedly nightmare fuel, it just wasn't for me for some strange reason. This article features what scared the crap out of me, but I'm thinking of checking out all this other stuff that you guys have been mentioning and possibly doing a sequel some time. EDIT: I just watched some montages of The Last Unicorn. The music is making it really hard to see the scariness so I'll have to watch in its entirety. But my point for posting this edit is that I noticed the animation looks really similar to that old Hobbit cartoon movie from the 70s. Now THERE is some nightmare fuel. I can't believe that I forgot about Smaug. And I don't care about the realism of CGI...Gollum in that cartoon was one of the creepiest things I've ever seen.
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Post by starwenn on Nov 16, 2008 20:26:56 GMT -5
My sister LOVES "The Last Unicorn," the book and the movie. Don't ask me why. The bull scared the crap out of me, too. Shudder. God, "American Tail." I've never liked that movie. As freaky as the Mouse of Minsk was, the whole opening sequence with the Cossack cats alone was nightmare-inducing. And how "All Dogs" got past the censors with half the stuff that ended up there, I'll never know. Even the video my parents rented as a kid had an epilogue with a live-action Dom DeLouise that basically apologized for how freaky and un-kid-like it is! "The Secret of Nimh" was actually the second film after "All Dogs" that came to mind when I first read this subject. Unlike "All Dogs," I love this movie, but even now, the scene where Mrs. Brisby is attacked by the rat guard really freaks me out. I'm pretty cool with "Sleeping Beauty" (except for seeing that black spot on the ground after Malificent the dragon takes her tumble, not to mention all that blood when the sword goes in), but a couple of other Disney movies can be pretty nightmare-inducing, too. Other Disney villains whose presences gave me little sleep as a child - Ursula of "The Little Mermaid," The Horned King of "The Black Cauldron," Judge Claude Frollo in "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," and yes, Big Pete playing the Ghost of Christmas Future in the last few minutes of "Mickey's Christmas Carol." (A really weird and freaky part of an otherwise classic holiday special - that's the scariest I've ever seen the usually buffoonish Pete.) Oh, and speaking of Big Pete, I love the little "Animation Week" graphic with the 20s-era Mickey tipping his hat to Minnie. As a big fan of the black and white Disney shorts of the late 20s and early 30s, I found that to be a cute touch.
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Post by starwenn on Nov 16, 2008 20:30:12 GMT -5
And incidentally Heather, the reason the animation in "The Last Unicorn" is similar to the animated "Lord of the Rings" films is because they were made by the same company, Rankin-Bass, who also did the "Frosty the Snowman" and "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" Christmas specials. And yeah, the animated "Lord of the Rings" films are not only pretty bad, but pretty darn freaky, as well. I don't think I've ever watched the second one straight through.
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Post by StarOpal on Nov 16, 2008 22:04:32 GMT -5
Heather, except for All Dogs, I watched those movies over and over - and they really scared me. I was just one of those kids I guess.
All Dogs I saw once, and cried and cried.
I always found Aurora's possession way freaky, but I thought the dragon slaying was the best part of the whole movie. *points to 'one of those kids' statement* Same thing with the Mouse of Minsk. But during the "There Are No Cats in America" song, when the little old grandma mouse gets eaten and all that's left is her rosary... it really messed with my head (it was so gruesome).
The Secret of NIMH is like one long nightmare.
Don't even get me started on Dumbo's Pink Elephants. Eek! Thanks a lot, coccatino!
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Post by blinkfan on Nov 17, 2008 0:48:24 GMT -5
Fantastic! Although I feel the clown scene in "The Brave Little Toaster" deserved a mention.
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Post by Hucklebubba on Nov 17, 2008 1:04:32 GMT -5
Excellent article, Heather. I will take my place as the umpteenth person to say that All Dogs put a scorch mark on my soul as a kid. And not just the Hell segment. It also bugged me that what's-his-faces thugs tuned up Scratchy; granted, we only see the effects of said occurence, but I owned a dachsund at the time, so it kind of hit close to home. I also vaguely remember the eeevil dobermans falling onto--I think it was a subway track--and being electrocuted to death. Yay! Electrocuted to death! For kids! I'll also throw out a couple of suggestions for a future article: The "Mysterious Stranger" segment in The Adventures of Mark Twain aka Comet Quest.It will mess up your life! This next one may not count, as it wasn't really aimed at kids (as far as I know), and wouldn't have been seen by, well, anyone on this side of the Atlantic at the time of its release: When the Wind Blows; perhaps best noted for its mega-trippy nuclear attack segment, after which the viewer gets to watch an adorable pair of British pensioners slowly die of radiation sickness. Party! EDIT: If you want to keep this nuclear nightmare train a-rollin', check out the Destruction of Hiroshima segment in Barefoot Gen. Warning: I literally almost threw up the first time I saw this. And I was a Sophomore in college at the time.
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Post by Hucklebubba on Nov 17, 2008 1:25:51 GMT -5
Fantastic! Although I feel the clown scene in "The Brave Little Toaster" deserved a mention. *Ahem*
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Nov 17, 2008 2:31:41 GMT -5
Fantastic! Although I feel the clown scene in "The Brave Little Toaster" deserved a mention. Oh thanks so much! It's funny that you mention that scene. I REALLY don't remember the clown sequence although I saw the movie so many times as a child. I will immediately try to find it on youtube as a lot of people (including Kaleb in his article) have mentioned it recently. I'm so freaking curious. I really was trying to stick with movies aimed at kids. Some of these, because I have never heard of them, are questionable for me as to who their audience was. I mean if we're going to include just ANY anime in the realm of disturbing then the list could be endless.
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Nov 17, 2008 2:41:47 GMT -5
Excellent article, Heather. It also bugged me that what's-his-faces thugs tuned up Scratchy; granted, we only see the effects of said occurence, but I owned a dachsund at the time, so it kind of hit close to home. Thank you!! To me this was a prime example of allowing the imagination to go wild. I didn't have to be very old to think of a lot of horrible things being done to him in the beating he mentioned. This movie....*sigh*.... Oh I appreciate the thought, but Cracked.com covered that one a few months ago and subsequently my psyche has never been the same. IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD WHAT THE *&!@?!?! So yes, yes it has messed up my life. I am thankful I only saw this in adulthood. I'm really not sure I can watch that. Just the mention of Hiroshima brings tears to my eyes. You remember I lived in Japan for three years. We were about 50 km. away from Nagasaki. So EVERY friend/friend of a friend that came to visit wanted to go see the bomb museum/memorial. That was depressing enough. BUT what haunts my thoughts to this day is my trip to Hiroshima. In THEIR bomb museum is a diorama of children, hit by the bomb, walking toward the onlookers. At first I had made this more descriptive but really I can't do that with a clear conscience. Just use your imagination. Or don't. That would be better. Suffice it to say the image still makes me want to cry almost 4 years after the fact. EDIT: Okay I watched that Brave Little Toaster segment finally. And you know what? I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER ANIMATED PIECE OF CELLULOID AS LONG AS I LIVE. I honestly MUST have blocked that one completely out of my mind on purpose. I hope you are all happy that I will have a sleepless night tonight. Every few seconds I hear that clown whisper "run". Suck on THAT, Stephen King. (And when I say that I mean the movie. Not the book, which was one million times scarier than the move thought it was)
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Nov 17, 2008 9:43:01 GMT -5
I also vaguely remember the eeevil dobermans falling onto--I think it was a subway track--and being electrocuted to death. Yay! Electrocuted to death! For kids! You sure you're not thinking of Oliver & Company? I seem to recall the evil dogs dying in that movie as well. Which, come to think of it, the climax of that movie was pretty scary too. -D
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Post by coccatino on Nov 17, 2008 13:36:13 GMT -5
And yeah Drew had already mentioned Night On Bald Mountain, so I just will say : Come on, guys that was my favorite sequence! I had strange tastes as a child. So he did... I completely overlooked those 2 posts for some reason. Maybe I was too traumatized. I really like that sequence, too... because I'm sick. I'm just saying it was scary. Also- the scene from Lady & the Tramp with the rats? anyone? www.youtube.com/watch?v=agVxzBzp_f8 around the 3.40 point. You know what I learned from that? Rats eat babies. While I guess it's ok to instill a healthy fear of rats in a child, the teeth and the lightening and the glowing evil eyes... ::shudder:: And how have we not mentioned Alice in Wonderland? Granted, it's a totally freaky book to start, but the entire movie is like a big bad acid trip. In awesome news- Tim Burton is making a live action/CGI version due out in 2010. Johnny Depp, Anne Hathaway, Helena Bonham Carter, Alan Rickman, Christopher Lee, & Crispin Glover.... no, that won't be creepy at all....
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Post by Hucklebubba on Nov 17, 2008 14:20:56 GMT -5
You sure you're not thinking of Oliver & Company? I seem to recall the evil dogs dying in that movie as well. Yes, I am thinking of that, and Youtube confirms it. Good call.
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Post by BlackCatWhiteCat on Nov 17, 2008 16:35:01 GMT -5
. I really like that sequence, too... because I'm sick. Hey I'm right there with 'ya. Oh I remember those rats! I didn't even need to check out the link. I remember exactly what you're talking about. That was terrible. And there was a scene at the beginning and the end, wasn't there? Double shot of ratty goodness. I'm assuming you mean the Disney version (and not that made for TV one that destroyed my soul. That was so hideously terrifying. I dreamt of the Jabberwocky for many years afterward.) Anyway I can safely say the caterpillar and the flowers (once they turned ugly) bothered me in AIW. Oh and when she's all alone in the dark forest and that thing erases her tracks, leaving her lost in the middle of nowhere. I may die from happy. So...Johnny Depp as the Chesire cat maybe?
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