Battlestar Galactica

[odin]

Kara seems to be filling all three of these roles. As the Beloved Disciple or the descendant of Mary Magdalene; her relationship to Lee and Zak makes a lot of sense in the context of a Da Vinci Code interpretation. She is like a daughter to Adama and is Lee's un-named beloved. She may alse be the angel or herald of the apocolypse. (A joker or wild card can take on any suit and trumps all.)

I speculate that Kara and her mother are descendants of one Romo's daughters . This may be why Kara's mother "knows" about her destiny. The connection with Kara and Romo can also be made with the piano music that she plays for Helo in her apartment on Caprica. She says its her father playing. This same music is playing on the basestar when Baltar first wakes there after the escape from New Caprica.

It is Romo who implanted the memory of the cloud vortex that she has had since she was a child. And it is Romo in the form of virtual Leoben that comes for her there and convinces her to cross over. Leoben is the other cylon with a love obsession. He is not above lying, stealing and keeping Kara captive in the vain hope that she will love him. He wants Kara to love him as much as Caprica wants Baltar to love her. Caprica 6 is Romo's version of the unnamed beloved, Mary Magdalene. Leoben is a lesser version of Romo. Kara is also as stand in for Lazarus.

[odin]

With respect to Romo's insanity, it looks like a split personality to me. As he tells Lee: (It's) why we build machines in the hope of correcting our flaws and our shortcomings. Each of the S7 can be seen as an aspect of Romo, disjointed and disconnected with the Caprica personality possibly being the dominant personality. But we never do see inside his head. However, we do see inside Baltar's head. More on this later. I would also say that if you lived for 6000 years or more with no hope of dying and no way of killing yourself, you might go insane. Of course he can't die because his biggest fear (voiced by Kara about Leoben) is that he is afraid his soul won't make it to heaven (the real heaven and not the opera house download center). His main objective has been to return to earth with the remnants of humanity and he seems to be trying the replicate the conditions of the "end of days". The first hybrid is clearly afraid of this happening and it may be why all references to earth have been expunged from history and memory except for the legends and myths that still circulate. The last time Romo attempted to recreate these conditions was on earth itself also one of the conditions for the "end of days". But if we are to believe that all this has happened before and all this will happen again; it's possible that the same events occured on Kobol; war, armistice and in this case the 13th tribe left for earth. Something that causes Athena so much dispair that she threw herself off a cliff. So this could be myth or disinformation or it could tell some version of the truth. We don't know what Galactica will find on earth at this point. Romo may have failed in some way in this attempt forcing him to start over with the rest of humanity that fled to the 12 colonies. Athena it should be said is the daughter of Zeus and sister of Apollo.

When the Galactica encounters the plague ship, Sharon quotes from scripture and say something like " and the mighty will be tested and found wanting", and Leoben also says they are being tested and its up to them whether they pass or fail the test. Sharon seems to know the most about scripture and believes it. She also shows fear and destroys the plague ship. I think another requirement in the replication of events includes the raising of Lazarus from the dead and as the first hybrid describes her Kara is the harbinger or doom because their next stop after the Lagoon nebula is earth.

[odin]

I am still undecided as to whether Kara actually died as we were meant to witness. In one frame just before the ship explodes the cockpit is empty or appears to be empty and her hand was on the ejection lever at one point. I think the vortex is a technological construct of some kind. We know that the Temple of 5 uses the power of an exploding super nova and I suspect the vortex cloud uses the energy of a gas giant to transport Kara to earth. But Kara is returned with memories of earth her past life intact, in a new ship that detects a unique radio signature, photographic evidence and a new implanted memory. She is "darker" and more obsessed and we suspect that she has a new body. She says she is not the same person she used to be. All highly suspect! Part of the story is missing! So we do know that the viper was destroyed since she is given a new modified viper and that she is missing part of her memory from the experience since she doesn't realize its a new viper. She thinks she has only been gone for a short time. What happened in the time she was gone? Her memory of this event has been erased or reconstructed. The obvious answer to all this is that there was a cylon basestar hidden in the clouds, we know the dradis is unreliable and that her ovary was stolen. This sets up the theory that the final cylon is behind these events and that all this evidence was provided by the cylons. But the cylons themselves don't know where earth is either so can't provide the pictures or the modified viper. It takes the unboxed D'Anna to trigger the events that follow and for Tryol, Anders to point out to Kara that something is different about the viper. The only one who could provide this evidence would be the final cylon who has been to earth.

Kara also has a connection with Baltar.

[odin]

Blah! I am going to back up here. I think my story is starting to collapse under its own weight to quote Romo and I may be confusing the message with the messenger to quote Leoben. LOL. I think the storyline is a riff on the Da Vinci Code but I am going too far into all the related myths and holy grail legends. It has to have its own twist to work and it has to be simpler or the audience is not going to get it. So I will throw it open at this point with these thoughts and strange anomolies:

1) I don't think we can discount Romo's dialogue with Caprica as a red herring. But Romo may not be the person speaking. Romo talks about everyone having their demons. Who is his demon? Does he have a demon in his head telling him what to say and do; like Baltar? The comparison to Longinus is too close to the mark to be coincidence. How do we account for what he tells Lee concerning his grandfather and about Kara's picture in his pocket? The age discrepancy between Romo and Joseph Adama. If this final cylon is not in the fleet and the twelfth is coming, it cannot be Romo himself. Unless we do some mental gymnastics and the meaning of not in the fleet refers to the last episode when the Cylons show up. There is also a connection between the final cylon and Leoben. Romo tells Baltar at the end of his trial that their ways part here (as virtual Caprica tells Baltar that his journey with D'Anna will soon come to an end).

2) Kara may be a descendant of the beloved one who is not named and Caprica 6 seems to be her counterpart in this regard. I think the final cylon is Kara's father. The connection is her father's music but we only hear a portion of the composition in her apartment. The full composition is heard in the episode "collaborators" and I believe this connects her to Baltar in some way.

3) Kara is taking the role of Lazarus but there are a lot of visuals cues that she is playing the part of an angel. The Galactica badge looks like a stylized version of Kara's mandela and a stylized angel in the center. In the Last Supper picture, Caprica 6's outline also fits the angel figure. The resurrection ship has architectural featurs of a cathedral and I believe if you can find a picture of it head on, you can see the "angel" motif.

4) The first hybrid says, they must not follow her. Is he referring to Kara or Roslyn? In the Da Vinci Code story, the grail is hidden beneath Rosslyn Church. The term "jealous god" can also be interpreted as "zealous". In the Last Supper picture, Roslyn takes the place of Simon, the Zealot. Or is he saying that Lee must not follow Kara into the vortex. Kara says, "see you on the other side Lee". Lee almost hits the deck himself.

5) An interesting Norse myth concerning the figure Baldr from wikipedia:

The legendary death of Baldr resembles the legendary death of the Persian hero Esfandyar in the epic Shahnameh. In Finnish mythology, Lemminkäinen shares just the same kind of fate as Baldr: to be killed by a blind one at the feast of gods. Baldr has also been likened to Jesus, as C. S. Lewis did when he said he "loved Balder before Christ" (Surprised by Joy). Baldr, a god of light, shares some of Jesus' traits as a youthful "dying and rising" god, who returns after Ragnarok, the end of the world (comparable to the Christian Apocalypse) to usher in a new era of peace. It may also be compared, at a stretch, to the murder of Osiris by Set in Egyptian mythology. Parallels with Mithras have also been proposed.

5) The final cylon is "old" since he has access to DNA that is at least 100 years old. D'Anna recognizes him in the temple of 5 as someone she knows or has met but seems a little disgusted at first.

6) I think that Lee is the real target of this creature and he has been tempted in many ways since the beginning. We see him near death floating in space and we see him near death floating in water in the crucified position. He is also wearing dark glasses.

7) We are told that there are clues in the season 1 DVD's. There are many oddities in the deleted scenes:

- Tyrol gets Socinus out of the brig and they perform a secret handshake?
- image of Lee in a viper, watch frame by frame and you see Lee's right eye transformed into the scary pale blue eye that we see once, when virtual caprica screams at Baltar to tell Adama that he needs a nuclear bomb to create his cylon detector. Lee has a smile on his face. This is a cut scene from 33 after Lee shoots down the Olympic Carrier. Again you have to watch frame by frame, Lee is smirking at the destruction. This scene appears again in Water when Lee is changing into his dress uniform and opens his locker, sees himself, his face goes into a startled state of shock and we see the smiling Lee again. Its a flashback of an event that haunts Lee. There is a cut scene from this episode in Razor; where Lee and Kara are watching the vipercam recording 12 hours after the event and Lee is obsessed with the idea that there was somebody on board clearly feeling some guilt. This is the episode where Laura is told that Dr. Amorak has evidence that there is a traitor in the fleet. Baltar is afraid that he will be discovered and dispairs that Roslyn will not give the order to shoot down the ship. Virtual 6 tells him that its not her decision, its god's choice and that god wants Baltar to repent. Laura seems to be on hold and the moment Baltar repents, Roslyn comes out of this state and gives the order. When Lee recieves the order, Kara tries to dissuade him. Later Adama tells Lee that he owns the responsibility for giving the order and Lee says that pulling the trigger was his responsibility (his choice?). There is also a strange comment on the commentary for that scene about Jamie forgetting about Grampa Joe and the twins. It's Joseph Adama who is father to Lee and Zak; as we learn later that Adama was absent most of the time because of the military. As Adama says later, " your grandfather was a better father than I was". What's up with all of that?

8) The Last Supper picture show Lee contemplating the chalice and a glass of water in front of Baltar and also in front of Kara, Anders and Tyrol. Water is symbolic for baptism. Does this mean that Baltar is the baptist and the others are yet to be baptized? Tory is not in the picture at all. Why is Tyrol holding the spear of destiny?

9) In the opera house sequence in the last episode of season 3; Roslyn, Athena and Caprica all see each other in the same vision together and see each other. I believe this vision comes from Hera who is the next generation in the divine bloodline. But later is season 4, Hera draws picture of caprica and the number 666. Athena terrified shoots the first caprica she comes across and clearly knows the significance of this number.

10) Virutal 6 tells Baltar in the opera house scene on Kobol that he has been chosen as the protector and guardian of god's next generation.

11) In another cut scene from 33 of an opening sequence, when the Galactica jumps, if you watch frame by frame, you will see Kara's mandela in its wake. Is this a reference to the vortex cloud as an FTL device?

[odin]

From Battlestar Wiki:

Caprica Backstory and Creation of the cylons:

The Sci Fi Channel will delve into the backstory of Battlestar Galactica with a new series that looks at the creation of the race of robots known as Cylons by the humans of the Twelve Colonies of Kobol and the eventual revolt of the Cylons against their human masters, which will lead the two races to become locked to the death in a bitter war for their respective survivals. Caprica begins over 50 years before the Ronald D. Moore-created Battlestar Galactica series.
As Battlestar Galactica is about a lot more than space battles, Caprica will be as much family drama as sci-fi tale. Remi Aubuchon (The Lyon's Den, 24) is writing the pilot script with co-writer (and executive producer) Ronald D. Moore; "Galactica" veterans Ronald D. Moore and David Eick will executive produce it. The two-hour pilot will be directed by Jeff Reiner (Friday Night Lights).[2]

Plot summary
It should be kept in mind that, while this information comes from reliable sources, the series is still in production, and some details - such as names, events and character backgrounds - may still change to a certain degree.
Caprica will take place more than fifty years before the events of the Re-imagined Series. It will follow the lives of two families, the Graystones and the Adams[3] (the family of William Adama). When the series begins, a startling development is about to occur - the creation of the first cybernetic life-form node or "Cylon"[4].
The Graystone family includes the father Daniel and mother Amanda, a computer scientist and surgeon respectively. When their daughter Zoe dies due to the religious fanaticism of her boyfriend, Ben Stark, her father manages to resurrect her - after a fashion. Already having Zoe-A, a digital clone of her personality, he uses stolen technology to create a robotic version of his daughter, known as Zoe-R, the first step towards creating the Cylon race.
The same terrorist attack claimed the lives of Joseph Adama's wife and daughter, Tamara. Together with Daniel Graystone he works on bringing back their children, but is appalled at his partner's methods and ethics. However, as a result of this tragedy, he grows closer to his 9-year old son, William Adama.


Initial concept
According to an interview with IFmagazine, David Eick said that they had been contemplating a spinoff prequel series since Season 2 began and were tossing around ideas. About the same time, 24 writer Remi Aubuchon pitched a series that had a lot of similarities to the Cylon storyline. Realizing that they could not devote their full time to both Battlestar Galactica and a spinoff, Moore and Eick decided to merge with Auchubon, seeing it as an opportunity: "We took some of what we had and some of what he had ".
According to a post on the official Scifi.com messageboard by Ron Moore's wife Terry Dresbach, executive producer Remi Aubochon will be the showrunner for "Caprica", in charge of the writing staff. Ron Moore will oversee and approve the story arcs, casting, sets, and read the scripts, though Moore will probably rarely write an individual episode for Caprica.
In an interview in Dreamwatch Magazine in May 2006, Remi Aubuchon said that he originally pitched a series which was an "allegorical story about slavery with robots", when approached by Moore and Eick. Aubuchon stated that William Adama will be 11 years old when the series begins. Aubuchon described the new show by saying, "This is a very human story about how our own hubris can lead us to disaster". He goes on to say that Caprica is meant to stand on its own from BSG: while still addressing backstory issues from Battlestar, it will not be required to have watched it to enjoy Caprica. However, "certain elements have been embedded into the first few episodes of season 3" of Battlestar Galactica, which might refer to things which will be further fleshed-out in the prequel series.
On November 6, 2006, the Sci Fi Pulse website reported that Ron D. Moore updated Dreamwatch magazine regarding the new series:
"It's actually a prequel, and this would be a one hour pilot not a mini – series. It takes place 50 years before the events of Battlestar Galactica and it's essentially about the creation of the Cylons.
"It's a very different show; it's not action – adventure and it's not even in space. It takes place on the Planet (sic) Caprica and it’s more of a family drama, with political and corporate intrigue. We're well into the writing of it actually; we're doing re-writes on the script right now and Sci Fi has been very happy so far. At the moment, we're just waiting to see if they greenlight it or not. Generally, there’s always a two step process: there's ordering the pilot and then there's ordering the series, but because we're not designing it as a mini – series, I don't know that anybody would even see the pilot if they chose not to go to series with it.
"Tonally, it will be very different," promises Moore. “This is Caprica before the fall. It's a decadent world, but also a world that's going at a very fast pace. It's a prosperous society that hasn’t experienced the devastation of the first Cylon war yet, so this culture has really not been taken down a peg, and their hubris is getting the better of them. It's a go – go society that's teetering on the brink, so it’s not that apocalyptic survival scenario of Galactica. The whole thing is tonally very different." [16]

[odin]

OK, after reading the Caprica backstory and the Graystone/Adama history; I'm going to make some assumptions:

- Lampkin is a clone "born" specifically for the purpose of defending Baltar. He is a clone of Daniel Graystone and has been programmed with some combination of skills and memories including legal ability (from Joseph Adama) and memories of family history from Daniel Graystone. We know that each of the S7 is programmed for a specific service or set of skills. Lampkins' story about losing his wife and 2 daughters is a memory originating from Daniel Graystone family history. He says he had 10 years with his wife and it was only when she was gone that he realized how much he loved her and would anything to be with her again.

- The Caprica backstory says that Graystone had a daughter Zoe that died in a terrorist attack and that she was involved with a religious fanatic. The backstory also says that Joseph Adama loses his wife Amanda and daughter Tamara (Kara?) in the same attack and . There is a reference to Grampa Joe and the twins made in the commentary for episode "33" that I find intriguing.

- We aren't given the name of Graystone's wife. What if the 2 daughters are twins from a previous marriage between Admanda and Graystone and custody was split between both parents with one daughter staying with each parent and Joseph Adama subsequently marrying Amanda. Could this be why Lampkin/Graystone hates Adama?

- What if the daughter Zoe is a religious fanatic herself and involved in terrorism along with her boyfriend and he is the leader of a secret cult that believes in monotheism based on judeo-christian beliefs? What if the 5th cylon is trying to recreate this cult using Baltar as the figurehead?

- Digital copies are made of Zoe, Amanda and Tamara. Can we assume that copies are also made of Graystone and Adama as part of the research? Are the figures in the opera house really the final 5 cylons or are they the 5 original digital downloads?

- If Kara is a clone of Tamara; this may explain why the Leobin figure seems more like a father figure and why she appears as a little girl looking up at her father in the moment before her "death". Could Leobin the cylon represent the original cult leader/mystic.

- The backstory says that Graystone made advances in the creation of the cylons by using "stolen" technology. Could this be a reference to the DNA used to make the S7; was this DNA and technology a relic of the past; kept top secret; something he acquired through the black market?

- Zarek (Zoe-A, Zoe-R) tells Lee that he is the sun god; god of the chase and god of healing. Hera's blood heals illness. Are the Adama's the divine bloodline? Was Joseph Adama captured and used to create the first hybrid?. Was his DNA used in the creation of the 8's? Does Bill Adama know? Is this another family secret?

- The Lion's Head nebula is a reference to Leo the sign ruled by the sun god Apollo. It has a "red and blue" eye. Why does Lampkin tell Lee that he looks like his grandfather. Is the final cylon young Adama/Lee? Does he also in a sense have a twin?

- Are the F4 cylons clones like Kara with implanted memories and unknown programming?

- Why is the final cylon taking the fleet back to earth? When the fleet jumps to the Lagoon Nebula, the entire fleet loses power and then Kara is discovered. In the mini-series, Dualla tells Gaeta about "confusing" reports from the fleet; including one battlestar that lost complete power before encountering the enemy. The message also contains the lines: vortex message and open wall malfunction. When Baltar asks V6 how they shut down the fleet, he says that she wrote virus and back doors to allow the cylons to control the fleet. She replies "something like that".

- Is Baltar the descendant of the Zoe's boyfriend and one of his women followers? Are the woman who surround Baltar the remnants of this cult? Is this why Caprica and V-Caprica are jealous? Does Caprica also represent Daniel's wife, who is being punished for leaving him and for the death of his daughter to a man he hates for killing his daughter (Baltar) and taking his wife (Adama)? Is virtual Caprica the voice of Zoe and virutal Baltar the voice of Daniel?

- How much does Bill Adama know about this history? He knows they have silica pathways to the brain as Doral say about the Ragnar station messing up their silica pathways. Adama suspects Shelley Godfrey after she attempts to seduce him in his quarters. She makes reference to his ability to use a memory palace. Is cylon projection an analogue of a memory palace. Was this acquired by the cylons from Joseph Adama as Lampkins says "everything he learned, he learned from Joseph". He also lies to Lee about Joseph's ethical and moral standards when the opposite is true. Why this "seduction" of Lee? Does the final cylon know the identity of the real divine bloodline or "god gene"?

- Does the final cylon have the ability to change form and move about undetected?

Daniel Graystone - computer scientist
Amanda Graystone/Adama - surgeon
Zoe Graystone - religious fanatic/terrorist?
Joseph Adama - legal advocate
Tamara Graystone/Adama -

[Al]

I don't mean to interrupt odin's dissertation, I just wanted to mention:

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA BOARD GAME!

I'm trying to check myself with cautious optimism, but it's by Fantasy Flight, who made the excellent Twilight Imperium and War of the Ring, and the great (-looking, at least, and now out-of-print anyway) Marvel Heroes. I can't help it. I'm stoked.

[odin]

Hahaha! Interrupt away. Some may feel the need to start a new 12 step group called
On and On Anon. I think its almost off my chest! There is still the issue of Ellen, the front runner at the moment.

[odin]

Ellen is the front runner for final cylon for a lot of reasons. There are more than a few pointers:

1) Ellen is the only major character remaining who is not in the Last Supper Picture but is dead unless she's a cylon. She's not in the fleet but could have been resurrected after her "death" and fits the line the twelfth is coming.
2) The scene with Tigh burning the right eye out of Ellen's picture seems to be a clincher.
3) She doesn't seem like a genius so would be on the list of last people you would expect.
4) Her arrival is highly suspicious and the cylon raider showing up at the same time and playing at being injured seems to be more than coincidental.
5) The captian of the ship where she shows up doesn't know how she got there and nobody provided any medical treatment; so she has been on the ship undetected for several months and claims to only have regained her memory in the past week when Adama is notified of her existence. This seems a lot like Shelly Godfrey's mysterious appearance. 6) She claims not to have any memory of how she got on the ship other than a good samaritan rescuing her and putting her on the last flight out of Picon; but nothing since.
7) She is immediately hitting on everyone and threating Bill and Roslyn and later works with Zarek to have Roslyn replaced and tries to run the show by manipulating Tigh when Adama is shot and out of action. She attempts to cause trouble between Tigh and Adama and break their trust by accusing Adama of touching her. She encourages Tigh's alcoholism and authoritarianism, effectively weakening him.
8) She collaborates with Zarek in removing the captured assassin during the election for vice president; either using her influence or doing it herself. Tigh tells her everything that is going on even though it is classified and we get the impression that she uses her position and possibly sex to advance her interests and her husbands interests.
9) She collaborates with the Cylons on New Caprica as well.
10) And now her face is being superimposed on Caprica 6 and this is being used to manipulate him again.
11) Then there is Virutal 6 telling Baltar that there is something about this one, referring to Ellen when they first meet and the cylon test which is now green for everyone; but when asked by V6 about the true results, he says he'll never tell with a cat got the canary look on his face. We get the impression that she is a cylon.

But for some reason, I just don't think Ellen is the final cylon. I'm starting to think that there are "one of a kind" cylons that are created for a specific purpose. Perhaps not unlike the final 4 who are not copies but originals. I suspect that Lampkin, Zarek and Ellen are this type.

The reason I think Ellen is a cylon but not the final cylon is that we know from the Caprica backstory that the cylons are created in part by making digital copies of the brain. It's not a leap to think that the cylons would kill or capture people and prepare hidden, sleeper agents using DNA and memories of people they have captured. Nothing says the sleeper agents have to be one of the S7. We know they have been capturing humans for experimental purposes since before the end of the first cylon war.

Ellen and Tigh have been split up for 2 years and we don't hear anything about where she has been or what she was doing. Only that they are starting over and not bringing up the past. Ellen has the same gap in memory that Kara displays after being recloned. So I suspect that the original Ellen has been replaced by a clone and planted simply because she is a negative force in Tigh's life and nothing else. She has been activated at a specific time to cause Tigh confusion and drive him in disastrous directions. This is only to advance the agenda of the final cylon and she is a tool, not the 5th.

I just don't think Ellen as the final cylon would provide the audience resonance that we are promised.

[odin]

I have a simple explanation for Shelley Godfreys disappearance and Ellen's appearance. This looks like a magic trick and while the audience is distracted by the idea of virutal caprica appearing in person, the magician performs the disappearing act. How is it done.... secret compartments. I guess you just have to ask how a magician makes someone appear and disappear. If you remeber, Leobin has been hiding in a compartment for some time before being discovered. And the assassin who kills Valance on Cloud 9 is suspected of using the air vents to gain access. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that.

[Lissa]

I have to admit I haven't read all of your dissertation yet, because it would take more than one naptime and naptimes are precious. But re: Ellen.

I was thinking Gaeta was the one, but after D'Anna said only 4 are in the Fleet and on my rewatch, I've decided that one of the writers decided that Gaeta wasn't, but was really, really fun to beat up on and never let ANYTHING good happen to him. So I've gone to one of my runner-up guesses, Ellen, for all of the reasons you said.

HOWEVER.

We now know that Cylons can age. We haven't seen the Seven age significantly because we've only seen them over a period of three years. But Adama points out Tigh's aging, and Tyrol joined the military at a young age- other people would see that, too. What do you think of the theory that Ellen is an aged/prototype Six, as opposed to the Final Cylon?

I do have to say that Romo Lampkin doesn't really ring true to me as the Final Cylon. He's nutty, yes (he's being played by Mark Shephard, which says a lot), but I just don't think the audience has the attachment to him. Will think on it more and come up with a more coherent argument later, but I don't know.... (Although I still firmly believe it's not the identity that is the shocker.)

[odin]

Hi Lissa, That's a good one! I hadn't heard it but it makes sense. Ellen Tigh would make a good aged prototype Caprica. They do have a physical resemblance. I think she is a cylon along with Romo Lampkin but Romo is possibly a one of a kind, "no twin" model designed for a specific purpose. I don't think there is enough time in what remains in the series to answer all the questions. I think the writers intend to explain some of the loose ends in the new series Caprica. So the final cylon has to be something the audience will get although the actors have said they were confused on first learning the identity. To me that implies a twist that even they didn't see coming. I'm keep coming back to the idea of Lee's twin but that keeps getting shot down as too cliched. But Zarek does say "leave no cliche unturned!". Haha. And there are clone twins all over the place. At one time we were told that All Along the Watchtower wasn't significant and then they said it was after all.

I'm struck by the idea that Sharon/Athena has a memory of Sharon and Tyrol and being a part of Galactica and shooting Adama. Also how their emotional experiences are mirrored by each other as if they feel what the other is feeling. And then there is Adama asking the corpse of Sharon just one word "Why" and on Kobol when he has her by the throat, she says" and you ask Why?". He's stunned by what she says. When interrogating Sharon when she comes back with Helo and Kara; Roslyn says "I'm sure every word we are saying is being heard". Sharon says "it doesn't work like that". You have to be "wired in". So I'm wondering about the ability of clone twins to be "wired in" so to speak with their twins.

I see the virutal Caprica and Baltar characters as a mask being used by the final cylon to advance his or her agenda I suspect that the final cylon has something to do with the Graystone/Adama story as the original downloaded personalities were their family members. So I keep coming back to Lee as crazy as that sounds.

[Lissa]

BSG webisodes starting mid-December! Whoohoo! "The Face of the Enemy." Also, a "shocking" (erm, if you didn't think about it and don't watch it, maybe) couple is being revealed. Well, one half might be.

It's not often I get to grin and say I was right

[Lissa]

SEASON 4.5 PROMO!!!! YES!!!! RIGHT HERE: ie.youtube.com/watch?v=yhjILFm6N4s

Erm, not that it tells you ANYTHING, really, given BSG's love for visions and flashbacks. But still. PROMO! And the one line I based a frakking 80 page fic off of.

Wheee!!!!!!!!!!!

[Al]

Nov 22, 2008 20:42:41 GMT -5 Lissa said:

Wheee!!!!!!!!!!!

This was exactly my response. Exactly. Even down to the same number of exclamation points.