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Post by TheLuckyOne on Sept 30, 2008 7:56:37 GMT -5
This show is starting to be worth watching for Mama Petrelli alone! I really hope they keep her being an awesome... erm, villain? I guess? (Although the line "I never should have given you up for adoption" was pretty lame, and HOW many people in this show have secret parents? Yikes.) The thing I've been wondering since then is whether she's just playing him. I agree, it would be lame for her to secretly be his mother, and hopefully the writers know that. But she's smart- she knows Sylar has mother issues, she knows one of his psychological hot buttons is that he thinks he's destined for great things, she knows his powers are similar to those of her actual son Peter. Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to manipulate a guy like that by making familial claims, especially when you can make the equipment at your disposal say whatever you want about a person's DNA. So now Sylar has Banshee's powers at his disposal, too? He's getting to be quite unstoppable. -D |
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Post by StarOpal on Sept 30, 2008 8:09:50 GMT -5
I like the pace so far of this season. But I'm telling you, if they go the way of clones, it would've been better to have just cut Ali Larter off.
Add in The Hatian and we can call it a ditto. Put me in the 'I don't want Sylar rehabilitated' camp, but him and HRG have... magic.
I hope, I really, really hope, that Mama Petrelli is lying about the mom thing, if for no reason other than it would just make her awesome to be that manipulative. To think, out of all the Founders that are left (that we know of) it's her, Maury, and Adam (and maybe possibly but I think not Linderman). She's what passes for a hero, ha! Also it would seem HRG doesn't know she has abilities (I know it's a repeat from a previous line, but the whole 'one of them one of us' thing makes me think so).
For what it's worth, this is my guess too.
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Post by Storm_Rider on Sept 30, 2008 11:16:07 GMT -5
For what it's worth, this is my guess too. Truth be told, in the comic she gets the formula commission from a dude in a suit, and the NEXT ON section on the Heroes site says: "After allowing Angela's (Christine Rose) half of "the formula" to be stolen, Hiro (Masi Oka) and Ando (James Kyson Lee) set out to uncover the identity of the Villain who hired Daphne (guest star Brea Grant) by consulting with the person who knows the Villains best... Adam Monroe (guest star David Anders)" |
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Post by CheshireKat on Sept 30, 2008 12:37:02 GMT -5
Well that was pretty damn cool. No Mohinder this episode will probably mean extra helpings next week. You gotta admit, at least he's a complete idiot in a fun and entertaining way, and can any of you really say that if you had a syringe full of super powers, you wouldn't inject it? There you go. I was glad we got to see more of Matt and the African Seer, interesting how he can induce the power to see the future into people, I doubt they'll tell us anymore about that technique any time soon. I'm willing to bet that's an offshoot of the 'seer' power we've seen thusfar. I bet if Isaac hadn't caught a bad case of gruesome death then his ability would have evolved along these lines. |
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Sept 30, 2008 12:54:22 GMT -5
You gotta admit, at least he's a complete idiot in a fun and entertaining way, and can any of you really say that if you had a syringe full of super powers, you wouldn't inject it? There you go. His problem is that he clearly didn't read any comics growing up. Otherwise he would have known that being a scientist and injecting yourself with an untested mutagen will invariably cause you to sprout fangs and gray fur. And then later blue fur, because gray doesn't show up well on the printed page. -D |
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Post by Storm_Rider on Sept 30, 2008 13:23:41 GMT -5
You gotta admit, at least he's a complete idiot in a fun and entertaining way, and can any of you really say that if you had a syringe full of super powers, you wouldn't inject it? There you go. His problem is that he clearly didn't read any comics growing up. Otherwise he would have known that being a scientist and injecting yourself with an untested mutagen will invariably cause you to sprout fangs and gray fur. And then later blue fur, because gray doesn't show up well on the printed page. -D ZING!!! However I would get a shot of the formula serum, I think that stuff is the real deal. |
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Post by DarthShady on Sept 30, 2008 15:53:12 GMT -5
You know what? Good or evil, I love Sylar! The entire show could just be Sylar interacting with various people & it would be the greatest show ever produced. He could be eating (or not eating) brains, baking cookies, dancing the Macarena (& I really hate the Macarena, so that should say a lot,) I don't care! I'd still love him!
I just prefer him evil.
And Mr. Muggles - That kid just needs more screen time. It's about time they gave him some.
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Post by Storm_Rider on Oct 1, 2008 15:17:39 GMT -5
On yet another re-watching of the episode...
Claire is suffocating and sweating (a lot), while her mom isn't doing any of those things, what's that about?
I mean she can produce flames, so let's assume she is immune to any kind of heat/fire damage- so no sweat, but she is burning off the oxygen in the container and although Claire is definitely in distress because of the lack of breathable air, her mom is cool and calm about it, what's up with that? (On the other hand, her powers may have come with the extra added bonus of not needing to breathe in an inferno)
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Oct 6, 2008 22:17:28 GMT -5
If he intuitively understands how things work, Forge-style, then maybe he knows what he's doing with the future stuff after all. Called it! ;D Of course, who knew Peter would be smart enough to track down Sylar to try to do just that... or dumb enough to take his ability, knowing what it brings with it. I have to say, the future stuff was awesome. I don't want to see present Sylar become a hero, but Zachary Quinto just nailed future Gabriel, portraying a guy who wants to escape his past and struggles against his addiction every day. The one thing I didn't like goes back to Claire's blood again. We've seen that it can literally resurrect the dead, with HRG. So there's no drama anymore- anyone who has her powers (Claire, Peter, Sylar, Adam) can bring anyone back to life. Gabriel getting upset and going nuclear over his son's death seems pretty stupid when you remember he could have brought the kid back to life in about five seconds. I have to think that plot point last season was a bad idea. Let's see, couple of other points: -I recently read an interview with writers/producers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete (language warning) where they confirmed that Sylar's power base was mostly wiped clean by the Shanti virus last season, and the only powers he kept were his original power and the telekinesis. Fine, except in this episode we see him using Isaac's future painting and Ted's radioactivity. Um...? -Sylar got psychometry from that sacrificial lamb last week, which is the ability to read the psychic imprints left behind on objects. That's a fairly obscure power in comics (I only know it because Longshot has it), but potentially incredibly useful. For one thing, it means when he touched HRG's glasses last week, he might have gleaned some incredibly useful information. We'll see. -D |
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Post by Lissa on Oct 6, 2008 22:51:06 GMT -5
I'll be honest- the burning question for me is who the heck is young Noah's mother ?? I'm so shallow, but that's so what I want to know. |
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Post by StarOpal on Oct 6, 2008 23:13:34 GMT -5
1) I agree it was probably a bad idea (you ask me the writer's wrote themselves into a corner last season and came up with a deus ex machina that'll come back to bite them, but I digress...) 2) but that doesn't mean that Sylar knows he's capable of that does it? Even if he's all rainbows and Mr. Muggles happy guy, I don't see anyone in the know telling him that part. (Maybe future Peter, but that's a stretch) I'll be honest- the burning question for me is who the heck is young Noah's mother?? I'm so shallow, but that's so what I want to know. Yes! Exactly! It was distracting. My guess: Elle. Evil!Claire is very irritating. Not so much the idea as the delivery: Apparently going from blonde to brunette and talking through your teeth makes you all hard and tough. *GRR!* Plus more creepy Claire/Peter-ness, now in a new bondage flavor! Who wants to bet that Mohinder turned into a giant roach? Skittering away from light, plus all the first season references to the roach. But seriously, how The Fly is it? I would have laughed myself sick if his ear fell off. Okay Nikki's long lost sister. We've gone from lame back to dumb. Man, Parkman will never have anything good happen to him, ever, in any timeline! But the turtle as his totem? I love it. Also, poor Molly hasn't grown at all in four years. Must not be eating her veggies, poor thing. |
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Post by Storm_Rider on Oct 7, 2008 14:25:36 GMT -5
Oh man, Matt following the turtle...funnies thing I've seen in a while. Nikki triplets...ah crap, this means we should be expecting another one if Tracy dies. Hiro and Ando, gotta love how their relationship has changed these past few episodes and the conclusion of this one, where as I see it, they're back to being BFFs. I guess digging up a coffin together would imply you be at least on speaking terms with each other. Adam's tone didn't sound to me very threatening, more like "Ahh, you got me you bastard, let's go have some warm sake", but maybe that's just me. I wonder if Mohinder's only chance of reversing the effect of his crappy formula would be a modified Shanti virus? Now for the future part, I'll be referring to "future Sylar" as Gabriel, and our present-day Boogieman Sylar as Sylar, since he made that pretty clear. Drew my man, as usual you make some valid points, let's talk about them. The blood issue; now one has to remember that we've only seen Adam's and Claire's blood working to heal/resurrect other people, we assume that Sylar and Peter could do it just because they can copy powers, but we haven't seen them actually doing it, even though they can heal themselves, and if we go by the movie rule that if you don't see it it isn't there, then neither he nor Peter would have been able to bring little Noah back, and the only person that could - EvilClaire - was there to kill them. However, presuming that Peter or Gabriel's blood could have resurrected little Noah, it was made very clear that Gabriel truly loves his son, I think we can safely assume that it is HIS son (about the mother, hell knows, maybe we'll get a hint of it as this season unfolds), faced with the death of his son, a normal man's heartache could engulf the world in a shroud of sorrow and still not be contained, so Gabriel going nuclear was just that, the evoking of feelings on a super-powered level. And as we've seen in season 1, Ted's power was very difficult to control, even by Ted, once he started to meltdown he couldn't stop without Claire being there to inject him, same thing with Peter - once he started to meltdown, and keep in mind to him it was a new power, the only choice was to shoot him in the head or what actually happened. So I don't think it far fetched for a father who's son was killed to lose control. I skimmed that interview as well, and the answers were pretty much tongue in cheek, however relating to Sylar's powers, I guess there's about an year interval between Sylar and Gabriel, meaning when little Noah is born, this if we assume that he stops his power collecting ways then. In that time he could have found a plethora of special people with powers that resembled if not perfect copies of what he had, a collector who lost his collection will ALWAYS want copies of what he had. Hell, one could argue that somehow he got hold of Peter, cut his head off and read all of the powers out of his brain, then put the top of his head back on and that's that, but that is stretching it, but still possible. As for the psychometry ability, you might be right there as well, that was such a short and apparently unimportant reference that it might prove important in the future. Also, want to note that Peter finally entered into a possible fight as I would, hands flaming and ready for a rumble  |
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Oct 7, 2008 15:12:51 GMT -5
Nikki triplets...ah crap, this means we should be expecting another one if Tracy dies. Ha... I thought the same thing.  It brings up another interesting question, though- who was Jessica? This guy says the triplets were Niki, Tracy, and Barbara. Either Barbara was Jessica, or Jessica was someone else entirely. Niki's confrontation with her father (adopted father now, I guess) in season 1 implied that Jessica was Niki's sister and she died. I had always assumed that meant Jessica was her twin, but I can't remember for sure if that was ever actually stated... maybe she was just Niki's adopted sister. With Niki dead, maybe we'll never learn the answer, but I hope they haven't dropped that plot point just yet. Hiro and Ando, gotta love how their relationship has changed these past few episodes and the conclusion of this one, where as I see it, they're back to being BFFs. I guess digging up a coffin together would imply you be at least on speaking terms with each other. Adam's tone didn't sound to me very threatening, more like "Ahh, you got me you bastard, let's go have some warm sake", but maybe that's just me. You know, we all thought the coffin was such a hardcore punishment, but given the show's chronology, how much time has actually passed since last season... a few days? A week at the outside? Psssh, you haven't even been in there long enough for a normal person to starve to death, Adam. Suck it up! (On the other hand, I'm surprised he's able to talk if he hasn't had any liquid for that period of time. The alternative is... too gross to think about.) Also, want to note that Peter finally entered into a possible fight as I would, hands flaming and ready for a rumble I know, wasn't that great? At first I was like, Peter in a fight? Awesome! Immediately followed by- Peter and Sylar on the same side in a fight? Those other guys are so boned. -D |
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Post by DarthShady on Oct 8, 2008 9:05:57 GMT -5
I just wanted to add some stuff I loved:
-Matt with a family. Even if his wife(?) dies, at least he finally has kids.
-Future Tracy's Jackie O glasses - nice touch! Also, I think that (however lame the story is) Tracy's character is a etter fit for Ali Larter than Niki.
-Sylar/Gabriel...As is evidenced in some of my other posts, more Quinto is more Awesome for me! And boy did he get quite a lot to do this week.
One last thing - Am I the only one who thought "OMG, Mo's become Voldemort!" Seriously, the hood, the crazy snake sounds, even his voice. It reminded me of any Voldy scene from the movies.
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Post by duckie on Oct 8, 2008 15:05:09 GMT -5
One last thing - Am I the only one who thought "OMG, Mo's become Voldemort!" Seriously, the hood, the crazy snake sounds, even his voice. It reminded me of any Voldy scene from the movies. Along similar lines, I was thinking Gollum ;D |
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?? I'm so shallow, but that's so what I want to know.
