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Post by PoolMan on Dec 16, 2008 10:52:47 GMT -5
Come on, Drew, even TheJadedOne has to be excited about President Worf!  |
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Dec 16, 2008 11:55:24 GMT -5
That was a guy from Star Trek: The Next Generation, right? Is that who that actor was? I thought they were just playing the "Look, it's Barack Obama... almost!" card.
Sorry, I'll try to be more positive. The end of chapter 3 was cool, even if the plot points it hinged on didn't make any sense. Lots of cool moments and confrontations, and Sylar finally seemed like a threat again (just in time to die, but I'm sure we all assume that's only temporary).
Okay, so: let's make a list of what status quo issues we expect to be addressed in chapter 4:
-After injecting himself, Peter's got powers again. The major question, I guess, is if someone who had and then lost powers gets artificial ones, will they be the same as his natural powers, or new ones? It's probably a safe assumption that it's the former -- Peter regained his mimicry and copied Nathan's flight -- but you never know, he could have new abilities instead. Guess we'll see.
-Hiro, meanwhile, has no powers. In theory all of the artificial juice is gone, but let's all take it as given that there's at least one vial left somewhere to give Hiro his mojo back. Maybe looking for it will be what he does in chapter 4.
-We never exactly learned why Kaito Nakamura didn't just destroy the formula, did we? I... guess maybe we'll learn that eventually, right? I mean, they totally drew attention to it with Hiro wanting to destroy it and Kaito stopping him.
-Mohinder is no longer turning into a hybrid of Spider-Man and the Lizard, but did his ingestion of the artificial juice (an aside: did that scene remind anyone else of The Dark Knight when Harvey Dent gets the gasoline splashed on his face?) revert him to no powers, or just stabilize his mutation?
-The eclipse. They going to explain that, or just leave it as "Well, most of the heroes manifested their abilities on that day, except Nathan and Isaac and Sylar, and all the guys Sylar killed beforehand, and the ElderHeroes, and Adam a few hundred years ago, so... yeah. The eclipse giveth, and the eclipse taketh away."
-Ando's power. Being able to supercharge others is a neat idea, kinda like Boost from the X-Men comics, and it guarantees Ando will continue to be partnered with others, since in theory it makes him useless on his own. On the other hand, the glimpse of the future that Hiro saw seemed to show FutureAndo shooting lightning at FutureHiro. A future evolution of Ando's power, maybe?
-They can always bring Meredith and/or Flint back, since they're fire-proof, and thus could conceivably have survived the respective explosions. Unless giant chunks of masonry fell on them, I guess.
-Did we see Doyle die? In theory they could bring him back too.
-Okay, Peter. You were cool again for arguably the first time since Kirby Plaza. Don't blow it, 'kay? Be the one they need.
-D
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Post by StarOpal on Dec 19, 2008 11:54:55 GMT -5
From 'Plot lines Eunice would use, but you'll probably never see...'
The fire was so hot it burned whatever was jammed into the back of Sylar's (nee Gabriel) head and he survived. Next season will go back to the "Five Years Later" future presented in Season 1, with Sylar disguised as Nathan. Thus reintroducing the question of whether there is inescapable destiny, and getting back to the season one stuff that the writers are so desperate for that the made an incomprehensible third season.
The preview makes it look practically the same anyway. Mutants on the run and hiding out especially.
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Post by PoolMan on Feb 3, 2009 10:29:25 GMT -5
Well, the new episode is finally out, and I liked it. I enjoyed the shift in tone, and the XMen-ish political aspect. I was kind of wondering how long it would take someone in a position of power to want to start rounding the abilitied people up.
I like the fact that HRG is finally acting in a dubious fashion again... I hope they don't explain it away too quickly. Hiro being forced into the sidekick role to Ando is interesting, kind of fun to watch how he takes it. And yay, African seer dude is back! (sort of)
Interesting that Peter's fundamental power seems to have changed. When he takes Tracey's ice power on the plane, he seems to lose Mohinder's strength. That's a great tweak... it'll keep Peter from becoming the all powerful Superman he was rapidly becoming in previous seasons. I like it.
That change also makes Sylar the most powerful again, as we saw when the agents all jump him in the Gray house. If they can maneuver him into being a proper villain again, it'll require a team effort to bring him down.
So, what'd you guys think?
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Post by StarOpal on Feb 3, 2009 11:12:55 GMT -5
I'm feeling a whole lot better about watching Heroes this season from the first episode. Having just come home after a 10 hour drive (that day, not counting the days previous, ugh) I really thought about just skipping it and catching it later on their website, but I'm glad I didn't.
I like that they'll finally be put in a situation where they all have to work together. I like that Claire was trying to be proactive, while ALSO not acting like a spoiled brat. I like the return of mysterious HRG. I like that the writers seem to be less wishy washy on Nathan's character. I like that it opened up with what could be a definite direction instead of having everyone do nothing for three fourths of the season (hopefully). I liked the peek at everyone trying to be "normal" and how what they were doing and how they handled it made sense for each character.
I'm not sure on Sylar yet. He's definitely a bad guy -that I like-, but 1) he didn't go whole hog and kill his "dad" 2) there's obviously going to be a reveal about his real dad, whether it works or is stupid we'll see 3) with the Nathan Petrelli thing it's hard to tell where he'll fall into the storyline and I'm cautious after the last two seasons that they might mess it up.
Ando and Hiro while Ando's picking up girls = Excellent.
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Feb 3, 2009 12:06:54 GMT -5
After watching last night's episode, I think we need a new poll:
Will Peter ever learn to stop hugging his family members when they ask for one?
_ No
_ No
_ He can try, but the boy's an addict and that's his crack.
_ Since she's his family member on the show, should Milo Ventimiglia be worried about all the, uh, "hugging" he and Hayden Panatierre do in real life?
_ No
-D
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Post by PoolMan on Feb 3, 2009 14:09:41 GMT -5
Haha... true, Drew. As much as I liked Peter in the episode, the "give your brother a hug" thing made me laugh. Um, Pete? Every time someone hugs you, an angel has its wings ripped off.
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Post by StarOpal on Feb 3, 2009 15:30:50 GMT -5
I vote "_ He can try, but the boy's an addict and that's his crack."
"Join me or else, Pete."
"No never. Never ever ever."
"I'm serious, Pete, join me or I'm taking you out."
"Nope. Over my dead body. Cold dead hands. Yadda yadda."
"Okay. Hugs?"
"Sure!"
I mean seriously. How do the warning bells not go off? And who didn't see it coming? The only thing that surprised me was that I thought Nathan had the zapper in his hand, making the whole "give me a hug" thing more practical. So now I'm left with this question: What is with the Petrelli brothers needing to huggle?
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Post by katoot on Feb 3, 2009 23:49:06 GMT -5
Did anyone else notice, in the taxidermy house, the picture of the boy....with horn-rimmed glasses? (at least that's what they looked like to me) Does this mean Sylar and Noah are brothers?
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Feb 4, 2009 8:41:42 GMT -5
Did anyone else notice, in the taxidermy house, the picture of the boy....with horn-rimmed glasses? (at least that's what they looked like to me) Does this mean Sylar and Noah are brothers? I didn't notice they were horn-rimmed, I thought it was just a callback to the glasses Sylar was sporting when he was just Gabriel Gray. Which highlights another of the fringe benefits of turning evil: perfect vision. So now I'm left with this question: What is with the Petrelli brothers needing to huggle? Much like the Wonder Twins used to touch hands, the brothers Petrelli need to hug before using their powers. "Petrelli brothers powers... activate!" "Shape of... a flying dude!" "Form of... a guy who used to copy multiple powers through proximity but now can only duplicate one at a time through skin contact!" It's catchy. -D |
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Feb 8, 2009 23:14:33 GMT -5
I've been trying to think back to the end of last chapter. When Peter injected himself with the formula to save Nathan, does anyone remember how exactly it went down? What I mean is, based on last episode, it seems like Peter can only copy one power at a time, and he now has to physically touch the person to do it. I thought I remembered that when Peter saved Nathan, he started flying before grabbing him, but that's just based on memory. Does anyone else recall if that was the case, or did he just sort of leap at Nathan and copy his power immediately when they connected?
-D
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Post by StarOpal on Feb 8, 2009 23:28:07 GMT -5
I remember it being the latter. Like he started flying as soon as he grabbed Nathan.
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Post by Al on Feb 25, 2009 23:24:07 GMT -5
"You know me. I've always been comfortable with morally gray."
I'm almost afraid to say it out loud, but I think Heroes has been pretty darn good lately.
I like that HRG is back to being ambiguous, and I like that they took back Daphne's death. I'm glad to see Hiro and Ando are back to being buddies, too. Actually, I'm pretty happy with everything they've done in the past few episodes. It's a good feeling.
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Post by StarOpal on Feb 26, 2009 0:11:02 GMT -5
Show's still on probation with me.
...but I hope it keeps going well.
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Post by TheLuckyOne on Feb 26, 2009 7:28:11 GMT -5
I'm still pretty happy with this chapter, but the end of last episode concerns me. Another prophetic painting of a major catastrophe? Really? By all means, there needs to be a threat for the heroes to thwart, but there's a reason the Avengers don't fight Galactus every single issue, or why even in Grant Morrison's epic-packed JLA run, there'd be the occasional "quiet" story where the Key would trap them in their dreams or whatever. If you tease the end of the world every time out of the gate, it starts to lose meaning fast. There's got to be the occasional more personal threat, and I was hoping this chapter it would just be the detention camps, not another cataclysm.
It's still early, and the chapter's been good till now, so I'm not losing faith yet. Still, Tim Kring, please don't forget that.
-D
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